Why I Own Okta Shares

My family’s investment portfolio has held Okta shares for just over a year and it has done well for us. Here’s why we continue to invest in Okta shares.

Okta (NASDAQ: OKTA) is one of the 50-plus companies that’s in my family’s portfolio. I first bought Okta shares for the portfolio in March 2019 at a price of US$79. I’ve not sold any of the shares I’ve bought. 

The purchase has worked out well for my family’s portfolio, with Okta’s share price being around US$128 now. But we’ve only owned the company’s shares for slightly more than a year, and it is always important to think about how the company’s business will evolve going forward. What follows is my thesis for why I still continue to invest in Okta shares.

Company description

Okta’s vision is to enable any organisation to use any technology. To fulfill its vision, Okta provides the Okta Identity Cloud software platform where all its products live. Okta’s cloud-based software products help other companies manage and secure access to applications for their employees, contractors, partners, and customers.

The internal use-cases, where Okta’s solutions are used by organisations to manage and secure software-access among their employees, contractors, and partners, are referred to as workforce identity by Okta. An example of a workforce identity customer is 20th Century Fox. The external-facing use cases are known as customer identity, and it is where Okta’s solutions are used by its customers to manage and secure the identities and service/product access of their customers. Adobe is one of the many customers of Okta’s customer identity platform.

Source: Okta FY2020 fourth-quarter earnings presentation

There’s a rough 80:20 split in Okta’s revenue between the workforce identity and customer identity solutions.

Source: Okta April 2020 investor presentation 

At the end of FY2020 (fiscal year ended 31 January 2020), Okta had more than 7,950 customers. These customers come from nearly every industry and range from small organisations with less than 100 employees to the largest companies in the world.

For a geographical perspective, Okta sourced 84% of its revenue in FY2020 from the US. 

Investment thesis

I had previously laid out my six-criteria investment framework in The Good Investors. I will use the same framework to describe my investment thesis for Okta.

1. Revenues that are small in relation to a large and/or growing market, or revenues that are large in a fast-growing market

Okta estimates that its market opportunity for workforce identity is U$30 billion today. This is up from US$18 billion around three years ago. The company arrived at its current workforce identity market size of US$30 billion in this way: “50,000 US businesses with more than 250 employees (per 2019 US.Bureau of Labor Statistics) multiplied by 12-month ARR [annual recurring revenue] assuming adoption of all our current products, which implies a market of [US]$15 billion domestically, then multiplied by two to account for international opportunity.”

For customer identity, Okta estimates the addressable market to be US$25 billion. Here’s Okta’s description of the method behind its estimate: “Based on 4.4 billion combined Facebook users and service employees worldwide multiplied by internal application usage and pricing assumptions.” I am taking Okta’s estimate of its customer identity market with a pinch of salt. But I’m still confident that the opportunity is huge, given the growth and size of the entire SaaS (software-as-a-service) market. A November 2019 forecast from market research firm Gartner sees global SaaS spending growing by 15% annually from US$$86 billion in 2018 to US$151 billion in 2022.

In FY2020, Okta’s revenue was just US$586.1 million, which barely scratches the surface of its total estimated market opportunity of US$55 billion. I also think it’s likely that Okta’s market is poised for growth. Based on Okta’s studies, the average number of apps that companies are using has increased by 52% from 58 in 2015 to 88 in 2019. Earlier this month, Okta’s co-founder and CEO, Todd McKinnon, was interviewed by Ben Thompson for the latter’s excellent tech newsletter, Stratechery. During the interview, McKinnon revealed that large companies (those with over 5,000 employees) typically use thousands of apps.

The high and growing level of app-usage among companies means it can be a massive pain for an organisation to manage software-access for its employees, contractors, partners, and customers. This pain-point is what Okta Identity Cloud is trying to address. By using Okta’s software, an organisation does not need to build custom identity management software –  software developers from the organisation can thus become more productive. The organisation would also be able to scale more efficiently.

2. A strong balance sheet with minimal or a reasonable amount of debt

As of 31 January 2020, Okta held US$1.4 billion in cash and short-term investments. This is significantly higher than the company’s total debt of US$937.7 million (all of which are convertible notes that are due in 2023 or 2025).

For the sake of conservatism, I also note that Okta had US$154.5 million in operating lease liabilities. But the company’s cash, short-term investments and long-term investments still comfortably outweigh the sum of its debt and operating lease liabilities (US$1.1 billion)

3. A management team with integrity, capability, and an innovative mindset

On integrity

Todd McKinnon cofounded Okta in 2009 with Frederic Kerrest. McKinnon, who’s 48 years old, has served as Okta’s CEO since the company’s founding. He has a strong pedigree in leading software companies, having been with salesforce.com from 2003 to 2009, and serving as its Head of Engineering prior to founding Okta. salesforce.com is one of the pioneering software-as-a-service companies. Kerrest, 43, is Okta’s COO (chief operating officer) and has been in the role since the year of the company’s founding. Kerrest is also a salesforce.com alumni; he joined in 2002 and stayed till 2007, serving as a senior executive. In my view, the young ages of McKinnon and Kerrest, as well as their long tenures with Okta, are positives.

The other important leaders in Okta include:

Source: Okta website and FY2019 proxy statement

In FY2019, Okta’s senior leaders (McKinnon, Kerrest, Losch, Race, and Runyan) each received total compensation that ranged from US$2.3 million to US$5.1 million. These are reasonable sums. Furthermore, 72% to 88% of their total compensation was in the form of stock awards and stock options that vest over multi-year periods. This means that the compensation of Okta’s senior leaders are tied to the long run performance of the company’s stock price, which is in turn driven by the company’s business performance. So I think that my interests as a shareholder of Okta are well-aligned with the company’s management.

Source: Okta FY2019 proxy statement

Moreover, both McKinnon and Kerrest own significant stakes in Okta. As of 1 April 2019, McKinnon and Kerrest controlled 7.98 million and 3.65 million shares of the company, respectively. These shares have a collective value of roughly US$1.5 billion right now. The high stakes that Okta’s two key leaders have lend further weight to my view that management’s interests are aligned with the company’s other shareholders.

I note that the shares held by McKinnon and Kerrest are mostly of the Class B variety. Okta has two stock classes: (1) Class B, which are not traded and hold 10 voting rights per share; and (2)  Class A, which are publicly traded and hold just 1 vote per share. McKinnon and Kerrest only controlled 10.1% of Okta’s total shares as of 1 April 2019, but they collectively held 50.7% of the company’s voting power. In fact, all of Okta’s senior leaders and directors together controlled 54.7% of Okta’s voting rights as of 1 April 2019 (this percentage dipped only slightly to 53.1% as of 31 January 2020). The concentration of Okta’s voting power in the hands of management (in particular McKinnon and Kerrest) means that I need to be comfortable with the company’s current leadership. I am.

On capability

From FY2015 to FY2020, Okta has seen its number of customers increase six-fold (43% per year) from 1,320 to 7,950. So the first thing I note is that Okta’s management has a terrific track record of growing its customer count.

Source: Okta FY2020 annual report and IPO prospectus

To win customers, Okta currently offers over 6,500 integrations with IT (information technology) infrastructure providers, and cloud, mobile, and web apps. This is up from over 5,000 integrations as of 31 January 2017. The companies that are part of Okta’s integration network include services from tech giants such as Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon.com, salesforce.com and more. Impressively, software providers are increasingly being told by their customers that they have to be integrated with Okta before the software can be accepted. 

In my view, the integration also creates a potentially powerful network effect where more integration on Okta’s network leads to more customers, and more customers leads to even more integration. During the aforementioned Stratechery interview, McKinnon shared about the competitive edge that Okta enjoys because of its efforts in integrating thousands of apps: 

“[Question]: The average enterprise — maybe it’s hard to say because it varies so widely — how many SaaS services does a typical enterprise subscribe to?

[Todd McKinnon] TM: Especially for any company with over 5,000 employees, it’s thousands of apps. Apps that they’ve purchased commercially, the big ones you’ve heard of, the ones that are in niche industries or verticals you haven’t heard of, and then the ones built themselves, it’s thousands.

[Question]: And then Okta has to build an integration with all of those

[Todd McKinnon] TM: Yeah. One of the big things we did very early on was we got really good at a metadata-driven integration infrastructure, which allowed us to have this burgeoning catalog of pre-packaged integrations, which was really unique in the industry because it is a hundreds or for a big company, it’s thousands of applications.

[Question] And it ends up being a bit of a moat, right? It’s a traditional moat where you dig it up with hard work where you actually went in and you built all of these thousands of integrations, and anyone that wants to come along, if they have a choice of either recreating all the work you did or, we should just use Okta and it’s already sort of all taken care of.

[Todd McKinnon] TM: Yeah, and it’s one of the things people misunderstand on a couple of different levels. The first level is they just get the number wrong. “I think there’s ten, right?” Or I’ve heard of ten big applications, so I think if I connected the ten, that would be enough, which is just off by multiple orders of magnitude.

And then the second thing they get wrong is they think that, especially back in the day it was like, “Oh, there it’s going to be standards that do this.” It’s going to be SAML as a standard. There’s this standard called Open ID. And what we’ve found is that the standards were very thin, meaning they didn’t cover enough of the surface area of what the customers needed, so it might do simple login but it didn’t do directory replication, or not enough of the applications adhere to the standard. So there’s a lot more heterogeneity than people thought of so that moat was a lot wider, a lot faster than people expected.

[Question] Is it fair to say that it’s your goal or maybe it has happened that people thought there would be a standard like SAML that would take care of all of this, but it’s going to end up being that Okta as the standard?

[Todd McKinnon] TM: That is the goal and I think it’s evolving to where there are de facto standards. A big shift is that we have big companies that tell software vendors that if you want to sell to us, you have to integrate to Okta and they have to go to our platform, build the integration, have it be certified. So that’s not a technical standard per se, but it’s a de facto standard of an application that can be sold to a large enterprise.”

I also credit Okta’s management with the success that the company has found with its land-and-expand strategy. The strategy starts with the company landing a customer with an initial use case, and then expanding its relationship with the customer through more users or more use cases. The success can be illustrated through Okta’s strong dollar-based net retention rates (DBNRRs). The metric is a very important gauge for the health of a SaaS company’s business. It measures the change in revenue from all of Okta’s customers a year ago compared to today; it includes positive effects from upsells as well as negative effects from customers who leave or downgrade. Anything more than 100% indicates that the company’s customers, as a group, are spending more – Okta’s DBNRRs have been in the high-teens to high-twenties range over the past few years. There has been a noticeable downward trend in Okta’s DBNRR, but the figure of 119% in FY2020 is still impressive.

Source: Okta FY2020 annual report and IPO prospectus

I also want to point out the presence of Ben Horowitz on Okta’s board of directors. Horowitz is a co-founder and partner in a venture capital firm I admire and that was partly named after him, Andreessen Horowitz (the firm, popularly known as a16z, is an early investor in Okta). Having Horowitz as a director allows Okta’s management to tap on a valuable source of knowledge.

On innovation

Okta is a pioneer in its field. It was one of the first companies that realised that a really important business could be built on the premise of a cloud-based software that secures and manages an individual’s digital identity for cloud-based applications. To me, that is fantastic proof of the innovative ability of Okta’s management. Stratechery’s interview of Todd McKinnon provided a great window on the thinking of him and his team in the early days of Okta’s founding:

“[Question] When Okta first came on the scene, it was Single Sign-on, so you could sign on in one place and then you’d be logged into other places, now it’s an Identity Cloud. Is that an actual shift in the product or strategy or is that just a shift in a marketing term?

[Todd McKinnon] TM: It’s interesting. When we started the company, you could see that cloud was going to be the future. We started 11 years ago, so in 2009, Amazon Web Services was out, Google Apps for Domains was out. So you could kind of see that infrastructure was going to go to the cloud, you could see that collaboration apps were going to go to the cloud. I was working at Salesforce at the time, so it was really clear that the apps stack was going to be in the cloud and we got really excited about what could be possible or what new types of platforms could be built to enable all this.

When we started, it’s funny, we called the first product, which was going to be a cloud single sign-on, we called it Wedge One. So not only was it the wedge, but it was like the first, first wedge. Now it turns out that in order to build cloud single sign on you had to build a lot of pretty advanced stuff behind the scenes to make that simple and seamless, you had to build a directory, you had to build a federation server, you had to build multi-factor authentication, and after we were into it for two or three or four years, we realized that there’s a whole identity system here so it’s much more than a wedge. In fact, it really can be a big part in doing all that enablement we set out to do.

[Question] That’s very interesting, so are you still on Wedge One? Did you ever make it to Wedge Two?

[Todd McKinnon] TM: (laughs) The Wedge keeps getting fatter. The Identity Cloud is pretty broad these days. It’s directory service, it’s reporting analytics, it’s multi-factor authentication, it does API Access Management. It’s very flexible, very extensible, so really the Identity Cloud now is an Identity Platform, it’s striving to really address any kind of identity use cases a customer has, both on the customer side, customer identity, and on the workforce side.

What’s interesting about it is that at the same time over the last eleven years, identity has gone from being something that’s really important maybe for Windows networks or around your Oracle applications to there are so different applications connected from so many types of devices and so many networks that identity is really critical, and we’re in this world now where ten years ago people were telling me “Hey, I’m not sure if it’s possible to build an independent identity company” to now it’s like everyone says, “Oh, it’s such an obvious category that the biggest technology companies in the world want to own it.” So it has been quite a shift.”

4. Revenue streams that are recurring in nature, either through contracts or customer-behaviour

Okta runs its business on a SaaS model and generates most of its revenue through multi-year subscriptions, which are recurring in nature. In FY2020, 94% of Okta’s total revenue of US$586.1 million came from subscriptions. The company’s average subscription term was 2.6 years as of 31 January 2020 and iInterestingly, Okta’s contracts are non-cancelable. The remaining 6% of Okta’s revenue in FY2020 was from professional services, where the company earns fees from helping its customers implement and optimise the use of its products.  

It’s important to me too that there’s no customer concentration in Okta’s business. No single customer accounted for more than 10% of the company’s revenue in each year from FY2018 to FY2020.

5. A proven ability to grow

There isn’t much historical financial data to study for Okta, since the company was only listed in April 2017. But I do like what I see:

Source: Okta IPO prospectus and annual reports

A few key points to note about Okta’s financials:

  • Okta has compounded its revenue at an impressive annual rate of 70.2% from FY2015 to FY2020. The rate of growth has slowed in recent years, but was still really strong at 46.7% in FY2020.
  • Okta is still making losses, but the good thing is that it started to generate positive operating cash flow in FY2019 and positive free cash flow in FY2020.. 
  • The company’s balance sheet remained robust throughout the timeframe under study, with significantly more cash and investments than debt.
  • At first glance, Okta’s diluted share count appeared to increase sharply by 29.5% from FY2018 to FY2019. (I only started counting from FY2018 since Okta was listed in April 2017, which is in the first quarter of FY2018.) But the number I’m using is the weighted average diluted share count. Right after Okta got listed, it had a share count of around 91 million. Moreover, Okta’s weighted average diluted share count showed an acceptable growth rate (acceptable in the context of the company’s rapid revenue growth) of 9% in FY2020.

6. A high likelihood of generating a strong and growing stream of free cash flow in the future

Okta has already started to generate positive free cash flow and positive operating cash flow. Right now, the company has a poor trailing free cash flow margin (free cash flow as a percentage of revenue) of just 4.7%.

But over the long run, I think it’s likely that there is plenty of room for Okta’s free cash flow margin to expand. I showed in my recently published investment thesis for Alteryx (NYSE: AYX) that there are other larger SaaS companies such as Adobe, salesforce.com, and Veeva Systems that have much fatter free cash flow margins. Here’s the table I showed in my article on Alteryx:

Source: Companies’ annual reports and earnings updates (data as of 23 March 2020)

Valuation

Okta has a target to grow its revenue by 30% to 35% annually from now till FY2024, and to have a free cash flow margin of between 20% and 25% at the end of that period. These goals were communicated by management just earlier this month during Okta’s Investor Day event. For perspective, Okta is projecting total revenue growth of 31% to 33% in FY2021.

Right now, Okta has a market capitalisation of US$16.08 billion against trailing revenue of US$586.1 million, which gives rise to a pretty darn high price-to-sales (PS) ratio of 27.4. 

For perspective, if I assume that Okta has a 25% free cash flow margin today, then the company would have a price-to-free cash flow ratio of 110 based on the current P/S ratio (27.4 divided by 25%).

But there are strong positives in Okta’s favour. The company has: (1) Revenue that is low compared to a large and possibly fast-growing market; (2) a software product that is mission-critical for users; (3) a large and rapidly expanding customer base; and (4) sticky customers who have been willing to significantly increase their spending with the company over time. I believe that with these traits, there’s a high chance that Okta will continue posting excellent revenue growth – and in turn, excellent free cash flow growth – in time to come. 

The risks involved

Okta has a short history in the stock market, given that its IPO was just three years ago in April 2017. I typically stay away from young IPOs. But I am willing to back Okta because I think its business holds promise for fast-growth for a long period of time (the company’s identity-as-a-service business is very important for the digital transformation that so many companies are currently undergoing). But Okta’s young age as a publicly-listed company is still a risk I’m keeping tabs on.

Competition is a risk I’m watching too. In its FY2018 and FY2019 annual reports, Okta named technology heavyweights such as Alphabet, Amazon, IBM, Microsoft, and Oracle as competitors. In its FY2020 annual report, Okta singled out Microsoft as its “principal competitor.” All of them have significantly stronger financial might compared to Okta. But I’m comforted by Okta’s admirable defense of its turf – the proof is in Okta’s strong DBNRRs and impressive growth in customer-numbers over the years. Moreover, in late 2019, market researchers Gartner and Forrester also separately named Okta as a leader in its field

Okta’s high valuation is another risk. The high valuation adds pressure on the company to continue executing well; any missteps could result in a painful fall in its stock price. This is a risk I’m comfortable taking.

Hacking is also a risk I’m keeping an eye on. Logging into applications is often a time-sensitive and mission-critical part of an employee’s work. Okta’s growth and reputation could be severely diminished if the company’s service is disrupted, leading to customers being locked out of the software they require to run their business for an extended period of time.

The COVID-19 pandemic has resulted in severe disruptions to economic activity in many parts of the world, the US included. I think that the mission-critical nature of Okta’s service means that its business is less likely to be harmed significantly by any coronavirus-driven recession. But there are still headwinds. In an April 2020 statement, Okta’s CFO William Losch said:

“We continue to closely monitor the business environment and impacts related to COVID-19. We remain optimistic about the demand for our solutions. Our highly recurring business model enables a high degree of predictability and allows us to maintain confidence in our revenue outlook for the first quarter and fiscal year 2021, which we are reaffirming.

We do, however, expect some near-term billings headwinds as customers adjust to the current business environment. Conversely, we expect our operating loss and loss per share to be better than expected as a result of reduced spend. This is primarily related to lower sales and marketing costs, driven in part by temporary travel restrictions, lower employee-related costs, and moving Oktane and other events to virtual formats. We have the ability to further adjust spend depending on the market environment and will be flexible in how and when we invest to extend our market leadership.”

Lastly, the following are all yellow-to-red flags for me regarding Okta: (1) The company’s DBNRR comes in at less than 100% for an extended period of time; (2) it fails to increase its number of customers; and (3) it’s unable to convert revenue into free cash flow at a healthy clip in the future.

The Good Investors’ conclusion

In summary, Okta has:

  1. A valuable cloud-based identity-as-a-service software platform that is often mission-critical for customers;
  2. high levels of recurring revenue;
  3. outstanding revenue growth rates;
  4. positive operating cash flow and free cash flow, with the potential for much higher free cash flow margins in the future;
  5. a large, mostly untapped addressable market that could potentially grow in the years ahead;
  6. an impressive track record of winning customers and increasing their spending; and
  7. capable leaders who are in the same boat as the company’s other shareholders

Okta does have a rich valuation, so I’m taking on valuation risk. There are also other risks to note, such as competitors with heavy financial muscle, and headwinds due to COVID-19. But after weighing the pros and cons, I’m happy to continue having Okta be in my family’s investment portfolio.

Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life.

Why You Should Never Follow Famous Investors Blindly

Blindly following famous investors is incredibly dangerous. “I’m buying because Warren Buffett is buying” is not a valid investment thesis.

Financial markets all over the world have been in a state of turmoil in recent weeks because of the COVID-19 crisis. In uncertain times like these, you may look up to famous investors to emulate their actions. That’s understandable. After all, following authoritative figures can provide a sense of security.

But I’m here to tell you that following famous investors blindly is incredibly dangerous. 

Blind faith

A few weeks ago, I recorded a video chat with Reshveen Rajendran. During our conversation, Resh shared the story of his friend’s investment in Occidental Petroleum (NYSE: OXY), an oil & gas company. Resh’s friend had invested in Occidental’s shares at around US$40 each, only to see the share price fall sharply. At the time of recording, Occidental’s share price was around US$16 (it is around US$14 now). Resh’s friend did not know what to do with his/her Occidental investment.

After we finished recording, I had a further discussion with Resh. I thought there could be a really good educational element in the story of his friend’s investment in Occidental.

I found out that the friend’s investment thesis for Occidental was to simply follow Warren Buffett. But here’s the thing: Buffett’s investment in Occidental is radically different from what we as individual investors can participate in.

Buffett’s bet

In August 2019, Buffett invested in Occidental through his investment conglomerate, Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE: BRK-A)(NYSE: BRK-B). What Buffett bought was US$10 billion worth of preferred shares in Occidental. He wanted to provide Occidental with capital to finance its planned US$38 billion acquisition of Anadarko Petroleum Corporation, a peer in the oil & gas industry.

Occidental’s preferred shares that Buffett invested in are not publicly-traded. So individual investors like you and I can’t invest in them. The preferred shares come with an 8% annual dividend that Occidental is obliged to pay until they are redeemed; the dividend means that Occidental has to pay Berkshire US$800 million every year (8% of Berkshire’s US$10 billion investment) in perpetuity or until redemption of the preferred shares happen. Occidental has the option to redeem the preferred shares at US$10.5 billion any time after August 2029. In other words, Berkshire is guaranteed to make a return of at least 8% per year from its Occidental preferred shares as long as the oil & gas company does not go bust. 

Investing in Occidental’s preferred shares the way that Buffett did is very different from buying Occidental shares in the stock market. The normal Occidental shares we can purchase (technically known as common shares or ordinary shares) don’t come with any dividend-guarantees. Occidental is also not obliged to redeem our shares at a small premium to what we paid. If we buy Occidental shares, how well our investment will do over a multi-year period will depend solely on the business performance of the company. Buffett’s investment in the preferred shares comes with protection that we can’t get with the ordinary shares.

No cover

To the point about protection, consider the following. In March 2020, Occidental slashed the quarterly dividend on its ordinary shares by 86% – from US$0.79 per share to just US$0.11 per share – to save around US$2.2 billion in cash. That was the company’s first dividend reduction in 30 years. Occidental needed to take extreme measures to protect its financial health in the face of a sharp decline in oil prices. Meanwhile, there’s nothing Occidental can do about the 8% dividend on Buffett’s US$10 billion preferred shares investment – Occidental has to continue paying the preferred dividends. To add salt to the wound, Occidental’s US$0.11 per share in quarterly dividend works out to just US$392 million per year, which is less than half of the US$800 million that Buffett’s preferred shares are getting in dividends annually. 

Yes, Buffett did buy some ordinary Occidental shares after his August 2019 investment in the oil & gas company’s preferred shares. But the total invested sum in the ordinary shares is tiny (around US$780 million at the end of 2019, or an average share price of US$41.21) compared to his investment in the preferred shares. 

We can end up in disaster if we follow Buffett blindly into an investment without understanding his idea’s key traits. Buffett’s reputation and Berkshire’s actual financial clout gives him access to deals that we will never have. 

Following authority into disaster

Resh’s story about his friend’s investment in Occidental shares reminded me of something that Morgan Housel once shared. Housel is currently a partner with the venture capital firm Collaborative Fund. Prior to this, he was a writer for The Motley Fool for many years. Here’s what Housel wrote in a 2014 article for the Fool:

“I made my worst investment seven years ago.

The housing market was crumbling, and a smart value investor I idolized began purchasing shares in a small, battered specialty lender. I didn’t know anything about the company, but I followed him anyway, buying shares myself. It became my largest holding — which was unfortunate when the company went bankrupt less than a year later.

Only later did I learn the full story. As part of his investment, the guru I followed also controlled a large portion of the company’s debt and and preferred stock, purchased at special terms that effectively gave him control over its assets when it went out of business. The company’s stock also made up one-fifth the weighting in his portfolio as it did in mine. I lost everything. He made a decent investment.”

Housel also committed the mistake of blindly following a famous investor without fully understanding the real rationale behind the investor’s investments.

In conclusion

It’s understandable if you want to follow the ideas of famous investors. That’s especially so during uncertain times, like the situation we’re in today. But before you do, please note that a blind adherence can be dangerous. Famous investors can invest in financial instruments in the same company that we can’t get access to. Or, their investment motives may be completely different to ours even for the same shares.

It’s always important to know why we’re investing in something. “I’m buying because Buffett or [insert name of famous investor] is buying” is not a valid investment thesis. 

Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life.

Are You Observing Economic Conditions When Buying Stocks? Here’s Important Data For You

It may not make sense to depend on broad economic conditions to tell you when to invest in stocks. Really good stocks find a bottom way before the economy.

This is a short article about important data you have to note if you’re reading broad economic conditions as a gauge for when to buy stocks. It was inspired by a recent question from a friend:

“While I understand that it’s impossible to time the market precisely, doesn’t it make sense to sell stocks and keep cash when you are fairly certain of a sustained economic decline (e.g. Covid)?”

During the 08/09 Great Financial Crisis, the S&P 500 in the US bottomed in early-March 2009. But interestingly, many stocks actually bottomed months before that, in November 2008. In The Good Investors, I have shared my investment theses for a number of US-listed companies in my family’s investment portfolio. Some of these companies were listed back in November 2008, and they include Netflix, Berkshire Hathaway, Amazon, Intuitive Surgical, MercadoLibre, Booking Holdings, and Mastercard.

The chart immediately below shows the share price changes from January 2008 to December 2009 for the individual stocks mentioned and the S&P 500. Notice the two red bubbles showing the time when most of the individual stocks bottomed (the one on the left) versus when the S&P 500 bottomed (the one on the right).

The individual stocks I talked about – Netflix, Berkshire, Amazon, Intuitive Surgical, MercadoLibre, Booking, and Mastercard – are companies that I think have really strong business fundamentals. They wouldn’t be in my family’s portfolio, otherwise! 

Now, let’s look at another chart, this time showing the US’s economic numbers from 1 January 2008 to 31 December 2010. The economic numbers are the country’s unemployment rate and GDP (gross domestic product). Notice the red bubble: It corresponds to November 2008, the time when most of the aforementioned stocks with strong business fundamentals bottomed. Turns out, the US’s GDP and unemployment rate continued to deteriorate for months after the individual stocks bottomed.

The observations I just shared have never been widely discussed, based on my anecdotal experience. But they highlight something crucial: It turns out that individual stocks – especially the companies with strong fundamentals (this is subjective, I know!) – can find a bottom significantly faster than economic conditions and the broader market do. 

The highlighted thing is crucial for all of us to note, in today’s investing environment. Over the next few months – and maybe even over the next year – It’s very, very likely that the economic data that are going to be released by countries around the world will look horrendous. But individual stocks could potentially reach a bottom way before the deterioration of economic conditions stops. If you miss that, it could hurt your portfolio’s long run return since you would miss a significant chunk of the rebound if you came in late.

Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life.

Special Update On An Upcoming The Good Investors Webinar

We are hosting a one-day investment webinar. Come join us!

It’s only a few days into the second quarter of 2020, but what a year it has already been. COVID-19 has wreaked havoc on the lives of billions of people in practically all countries around the world, including Singapore, our home. The human suffering, especially when it comes to our frontline heroes – those in healthcare, food & beverage, delivery, law enforcement, and countless other essential services – is immense. But so is the courage and grace and grit that has been shown. Corporations are also stepping up, overhauling their manufacturing lines and/or working on overdrive to produce all-important masks, sanitisers, ventilators, face shields, cures, vaccines, and more.

At The Good Investors, Jeremy and I have been looking to see how we can help in this fight against COVID-19. Our efforts are miniscule compared to what I just described above. But we do what we can.

One of the things we have been doing is to guide people toward better investment behaviours by regularly providing the appropriate context and information about the current market situation. “The investor’s chief problem – and even his worst enemy – is likely to be himself,” the legendary Ben Graham once said. We are our own worst enemies, and this is a problem Jeremy and I have been trying to help tackle at The Good Investors. If we succeed in helping even just one investor exhibit better investment behaviour in this current climate, then society as a whole, will come out of this crisis in slightly better financial shape.

To widen the reach of our good fight, Jeremy and I are partnering with Online Traders’ Club for a one-day investment webinar that is open to the general public. Online Traders’ Club is a non-profit organization formed in 2005 for members who have a deep interest in the financial markets. Learn more about it here. Online Traders’ Club has kindly offered to handle all the logistics and provide a webinar-platform for Jeremy and I to share our investing thoughts.

Here are the details for the webinar:

  • Date: 23 April 2020 (Thursday)
  • Time: 8.00pm – 10.00pm (Webinar room opens 7.45pm)
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  •  What Jeremy and I will share during the webinar: (1) The key mindsets you need to be a good investor; (2) my investment framework for evaluating companies; (3) how to find long-term investment opportunities during the COVID-19 crisis; (4) Q&A
  • The key takeaways you will have: (1) Understand what the stock market is; (2) understand the right mindsets to be a successful investor; and (3) have a sound framework to analyse investment opportunities
  • Cost of attending webinar: FREE!
  • Capacity for webinar: (1) 200 pax, for webinar room where attendees can ask questions; (2) Unlimited pax for Watch-Only experience on Youtube

Register for the webinar here

Jeremy and I hope to see you at the webinar in 2 weeks! In the meantime, stay safe, and stay strong. We. Will. Get. Through. This. 

Editor’s note: We published the recorded webinar and the presentation deck on 27 April 2020. They can be found here.

Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life.

Why I Own DocuSign Shares

DocuSign has only been in my family’s portfolio for a short time, but it has done well for us. Here’s why we continue to own DocuSign.

DoucSign (NASDAQ: DOCU) is one of the 50-plus companies that’s in my family’s portfolio. I first bought DocuSign shares for the portfolio in December 2018 at a price of US$41 and I’ve not sold any of the shares I’ve bought. 

The purchase has worked out very well for my family’s portfolio thus far, with DocuSign’s share price being around US$79 now. But we’ve not even owned the company’s shares for two years, and it is always important to think about how the company’s business will evolve going forward. What follows is my thesis for why I still continue to hold DocuSign shares.

Company description

DocuSign provides DocuSign eSignature, currently the world’s leading cloud-based e-signature solution. This software service enables users to sign a document securely using almost any device from virtually anywhere in the world. It is the core part of the broader DocuSign Agreement Cloud, which is a suite of software services – again all delivered over the cloud – that automates and connects the entire agreement process. DocuSign Agreement Cloud includes:

  • Automatic generation of an agreement from data in other systems; 
  • Support of negotiation-workflow; 
  • Collection of payment after signatures;
  • Use of artificial intelligence (AI) to analyse agreement-documents for risks and opportunities; and 
  • Hundreds of integrations with other systems, so that the agreement process can be seamlessly combined with other business processes and data

At the end of its fiscal year ended 31 January 2020 (FY2020), DocuSign had over 585,000 paying customers and hundreds of millions of users. From its founding in 2003 through to FY2019, the company had processed over 1 billion successful transactions (around 300 million in FY2019 alone). DocuSign defines a successful transaction as the completion of all required actions (such as signing or approving documents) by all relevant parties in an Envelope; an Envelope is, in turn, a digital container used to send one or more documents for signature or approval to the relevant recipients.

DocuSign serves customers of all sizes, from sole proprietorships to the companies that are among the top 2,000 publicly-traded enterprises. The company’s customers also come from many different industries, as the chart below illustrates.

Source: DocuSign investor presentation   

For a geographical perspective of DocuSign’s business, its users are in over 180 countries. But in FY2020, 82% of the company’s revenue came from the US. 

Investment thesis

I had previously laid out my six-criteria investment framework in The Good Investors. I will use the same framework to describe my investment thesis for DocuSign.

1. Revenues that are small in relation to a large and/or growing market, or revenues that are large in a fast-growing market

Has it ever occured to you that the innocuous act of signing documents with pen-and-paper can actually be a significantly wasteful activity for companies? The thought struck me when I was doing research on DocuSign before I bought its shares. Think about it. Signing a paper document requires you to fax, scan, email, snail-mail, courier, and file. DocuSign’s solution can save us both time and money.

There are many use-cases for DocuSign’s software services, ranging from sales contracts to employment contracts, non-disclosure agreements, and more. In fact, DocuSign has a customer that has implemented over 300 use-cases. DocuSign documents are legally accepted and protected with cryptographic technology from tampering. The documents also have a full audit trail, including party names, email addresses, public IP addresses, and a time-stamped record of each individual’s interaction with a document.

DocuSign estimated that it had a total addressable market of US$25 billion in 2017, using (1) the number of companies in its core markets, and (2) its internal estimate of an annual contract value based on each respective company’s size, industry, and location. This estimate remains unchanged (it was mentioned in the company’s FY2020 annual report), though recent business moves may have significantly expanded its addressable market. More on this later. At just US$974.0 million, DocuSign’s revenue in FY2020 is merely a fraction of its estimated market opportunity.

I believe that DocuSign’s addressable market will likely grow over time. There are clear benefits to e-signatures. A 2015 third-party study by Intellicap (commissioned by DocuSign) found that the company’s enterprise customers derived an average incremental value of US$36 per transaction (with a range of US$5 to US$100) when using the company’s software as compared to traditional paper-processes. In FY2020, 82% of all the successful transactions that flowed through DocuSign’s platform were completed in less than 24 hours, while 50% were completed within just 15 minutes. DocuSign’s services help companies save money and time.

2. A strong balance sheet with minimal or a reasonable amount of debt

As of 31 January 2020, DocuSign held US$895.9 million in cash, short-term investments, and long-term investments. This is nearly twice the company’s total debt of US$465.3 million (all of which are convertible notes). For the sake of conservatism, I also note that DocuSign had US$183.2 million in operating lease liabilities. But the company’s cash, short-term investments and long-term investments still comfortably outweigh the sum of the company’s debt and operating lease liabilities (US$648.5 million). 

3. A management team with integrity, capability, and an innovative mindset

On integrity

Leading DocuSign as CEO is Daniel Springer, 57, who joined the company in January 2017. Among other key leaders in DocuSign are:

  • Scott Olrich, Chief Operating Officer, 48
  • Michael Sheridan, Chief Financial Officer, 55
  • Loren Alhadeff, Chief Revenue Officer, 41
  • Kirsten Wolberg, Chief Technology and Operations Officer, 52

Most of them have relatively short tenure with DocuSign, but have collectively clocked decades in senior leadership roles in other technology companies.

Source: DocuSign proxy statement

DocuSign has opted not to share details about its compensation structure for senior management because of its status as an “emerging growth company.” And Springer’s total compensation for FY2019 was a princely sum of US$13.4 million. But I take heart in this: 94% of Springer’s total compensation in FY2019 came from stock awards, and around 70% of the stock awards vest over a period of four years. The multi-year vesting of the stock awards means that Springer’s compensation is tied to the long run performance of DocuSign’s stock price, which is in turn governed by its business performance. So I think Springer’s interests are aligned with mine as a shareholder of the company.

Notably, Springer also controlled 2.3 million shares of DocuSign as of 31 March 2019, a stake that’s worth a sizable US$211 million at the current share price.  

On capability

From FY2013 to FY2020, DocuSign has seen its number of customers increase more than 10-fold (41% per year) from 54,000 to 585,000. So the first thing I note is that DocuSign’s management has a terrific track record of growing its customer count.

Source: DocuSign June 2018 investor presentation and annual report

To win customers, DocuSign’s software service offers over 300 pre-built integrations with widely used business applications from other tech giants such as salesforce.com, Oracle, SAP, Google, and more. These third-party applications are mostly in the areas of CRM (customer relationship management), ERP (enterprise resource planning), and HCM (human capital management). DocuSign also has APIs (application programming interfaces) that allow its software to be easily integrated with its customers’ own apps. 

I also credit DocuSign’s management with the success that the company has found with its land-and-expand strategy. The strategy starts with the company landing a customer with an initial use case, and then expanding its relationship with the customer through other use cases. The success can be illustrated through DocuSign’s strong dollar-based net retention rates (DBNRRs). The metric is a very important gauge for the health of a SaaS (software-as-a-service) company’s business. It measures the change in revenue from all of DocuSign’s customers a year ago compared to today; it includes positive effects from upsells as well as negative effects from customers who leave or downgrade. Anything more than 100% indicates that the company’s customers, as a group, are spending more – DocuSign’s DBNRRs have been in the low-teens to mid-teens range in the past few years.

Source: DocuSign IPO prospectus and earnings call transcripts
On innovation

I think DocuSign’s management scores well on the innovation front, since the company has been busy with using blockchain technology and AI to improve its services. 

Blockchain technology is the backbone of cryptocurrencies and DocuSign has been experimenting with blockchain-based smart contracts since 2015. In June 2018, DocuSign joined the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance and showed how a DocuSign agreement can be automatically written onto the Ethereum blockchain. Here’s an example of a smart contract  described by DocuSign:

“A smart contract turns a contract into something like a computer program. The Internet-connected program monitors data and triggers actions relevant to the contract’s terms. For example, a crop-insurance smart contract might use a trusted Internet feed of weather data. If the temperature goes above 85 degrees Fahrenheit in April, the smart contract will automatically trigger a crop-insurance payout, again via the Internet. This total automation eliminates ambiguity and promises large savings in time and effort for all parties involved.”

It’s early days for DocuSign’s use of blockchain, but I’m watching its moves here. DocuSign’s management acknowledges that many of the company’s customers don’t yet see the value of blockchain technology in the agreement process. But the company still believes in blockchain’s potential.  

DocuSign has been working with AI since at least 2017 when it acquired machine-learning firm Appuri during the year. In February 2020, DocuSign inked an agreement to acquire Seal Software for US$188 million. The acquisition is expected to close in the first half of DocuSign’s FY2021. Seal Software was founded in 2010 and uses AI to analyse contracts. For example, Seal Software can search for legal concepts (and not just keywords) in large collections of documents, and automatically extract and compare critical clauses and terms. Prior to the acquisition, DocuSign was already tacking Seal Software’s services onto DocuSign Agreement Cloud. The combination of Seal Software and DocuSign’s technologies have helped a “large international information-services company” reduce legal-review time by 75%. Ultimately, DocuSign thinks that Seal Software will be able to strengthen DocuSign Agreement Cloud’s AI foundation.

Speaking of DocuSign Agreement Cloud, it was released in March 2019. As mentioned earlier, it includes multiple software services. DocuSign sees DocuSign Agreement Cloud as a new category of cloud software that connects existing cloud services in the realms of marketing, sales, human resources, enterprise resource planning, and more, into agreement processes. 

I see two huge positives that come with the introduction of multi-product sales. Firstly, it will likely lead to each DocuSign customer using more of the company’s products. This means that DocuSign could be plugged into an increasing number of its customers’ business processes, resulting in stickier customers. Secondly, DocuSign thinks that covering a wider scope of the entire agreement process could roughly double its market opportunity from the current size of US$25 billion to around US$50 billion. 

4. Revenue streams that are recurring in nature, either through contracts or customer-behaviour

DocuSign’s business is built nearly entirely on subscriptions, which generate recurring revenue for the company. Customers of DocuSign gain access to the company’s software platform through a subscription, which typically ranges from one to three years.  In FY2020, FY2019, and FY2018, more than 93% of DocuSign’s revenue in each fiscal year came from subscriptions to its cloud-based software platform; the rest of the revenue came from services such as helping the company’s customers deploy its software efficiently. 

It’s worth noting too that there is no customer-concentration with DocuSign. There was no customer that accounted for more than 10% of the company’s revenue in FY2020.

5. A proven ability to grow

There isn’t much historical financial data to study for DocuSign, since the company was only listed in April 2018. But I do like what I see:

Source: DocuSign annual reports and IPO prospectus

A few notable points from DocuSign’s financials:

  • DocuSign has compounded its revenue at an impressive annual rate of 40.4% from FY2016 to FY2020. The rate of growth has not slowed much, coming in at a still-impressive 38.9% in FY2020.
  • DocuSign is still making losses, but the good thing is that it started to generate positive operating cash flow and free cash flow in FY2018.
  • Annual growth in operating cash flow from FY2018 to FY2020 was strong, at 45.1%. Free cash flow has increased at a much slower pace, but the company is investing for growth. 
  • The company’s balance sheet remained robust throughout the timeframe under study, with significantly more cash and investments than debt.
  • At first glance, DocuSign’s diluted share count appeared to increase sharply by 30.7% from FY2019 to FY2020. (I only started counting from FY2019 since DocuSign was listed in April 2018, which is in the first quarter of FY2019.) But the number I’m using is the weighted average diluted share count. Right after DocuSign got listed, it had a share count of around 152 million. Moreover, DocuSign’s weighted average diluted share count showed acceptable year-on-year growth rates (acceptable in the context of the company’s rapid revenue growth) in the first, second, and third quarters of FY2020.
Source: DocuSign quarterly earnings updates

6. A high likelihood of generating a strong and growing stream of free cash flow in the future

DocuSign has already started to generate free cash flow. Right now, the company has a poor trailing free cash flow margin (free cash flow as a percentage of revenue) of just 4.5%.

But over the long run, I think it’s likely that there is plenty of room for DocuSign’s free cash flow margin to expand. I showed in my recently published investment thesis for Alteryx (NYSE: AYX) that there are other larger SaaS companies such as Adobe, salesforce.com, and Veeva Systems that have much fatter free cash flow margins. Here’s the table I showed in my article on Alteryx:

Source: Companies’ annual reports and earnings updates (data as of 23 March 2020)

Valuation

Right now, DocuSign has a market capitalisation of US$14.34 billion against trailing revenue of US$974.0 million. These numbers give rise to a price-to-sales (P/S) ratio of 14.7, which makes the company look pretty darn expensive. For perspective, if I assume that DocuSign has a 30% free cash flow margin today, then the company would have a price-to-free cash flow ratio of 49 based on the current P/S ratio (14.7 divided by 30%). 

But DocuSign also has a few strong positives going for it. The company has: (1) revenue that is low compared to a fast-growing addressable market; (2) a business that solves important pain points for customers; (3) a large and rapidly expanding customer base; and (4) sticky customers who have been willing to significantly increase their spending with the company over time. I believe that with these traits, there’s a high chance that DocuSign will continue posting excellent revenue growth – and in turn, excellent free cash flow growth – in the years ahead. 

The current high valuation for DocuSign does mean that its share price is likely going to be more volatile than the stock market as a whole. I’m also keeping in mind that stocks have been very volatile of late because of COVID-19 fears. But the potential volatility is something I’m very comfortable with.

The risks involved

DocuSign has a short history in the stock market, given that its IPO was just two years ago in April 2018. I typically stay away from young IPOs. But I’m making an exception for DocuSign because I think its business holds promise for fast-growth for a long period of time. But the company’s young age as a publicly-listed company is still a risk I’m watching.

Adobe is a much larger SaaS company with trailing revenue of US$11.7 billion. Through its Adobe Sign product, Adobe is the primary competitor of DocuSign. So far, DocuSign has defended its turf admirably. This is shown in DocuSign’s strong revenue and customer growth rates. But Adobe’s larger financial might compared to DocuSign means competition is a risk. 

Another important risk for DocuSign relates to data breaches. DocuSign handles sensitive information about its customers due to the nature of its business. If there are any serious data breaches in DocuSign’s software services, the company could lose the confidence of customers and the public, leading to growth difficulties. The signing of documents may be highly time-sensitive events. So if there is any significant downtime in DocuSign’s services, it could also lead to an erosion of trust among existing as well as prospective customers. So far, DocuSign has done a great job by providing 99.99% availability in FY2020. 

Valuation is another risk to consider. DocuSign’s high P/S ratio means that the market expects rapid growth from the company. So if the business performance disappoints subsequently, market sentiment could turn quickly on DocuSign, leading to a cratering stock price.

Earlier, I discussed the advantages that the launch of DocuSign Agreement Cloud brought to the company. But there are downsides too. For instance, multi-product sales involves higher complexity and a longer sales cycle; these factors negatively affected DocuSign’s billings growth and net dollar-based retention rate in the first quarter of FY2020. The ongoing COVID-19 pandemic has caused business activity around the world to slow tremendously, with many countries being in various states of lockdown. A lengthy sales cycle could hamper DocuSign’s business in the current environment. For now, DocuSign’s business does not seem to have been impacted by COVID-19. Here’s CEO Dan Springer’s comment on the matter in DocuSign’s FY2020 fourth-quarter earnings call:

“[T]he vast majority of our implementations are done remote. And of course, if you think about the perfect example of that it’s our web and mobile customers, where they never actually have to speak. Not only do they don’t have to have us in person they don’t need to speak to us to onboard. … We do find with some of our larger enterprise customers that they get more value when some of the installation is done on their premises. But we have not had the opportunity in the past to consider doing that completely remotely. And it may be in the new way of business over the next X period of time here then we’ll do more of it.”

And when DocuSign’s management was asked in the same earnings call if its growth would be affected by a recession, Springer answered:

“Yes, I don’t. Because, I think, for most of our customers, at least half of the focus is around efficiency. And people see the incredibly high ROI. And I can’t speak for all-digital transformation programs, of course, but as I think about the ones that are DocuSign-centric people are laser-focused on the ROI they get from getting rid of those manual processes, the wasted labor, getting rid of things like the transportation cost, the shipping, et cetera.

That’s a big focus. So I don’t think in a recession you would see people pull back on that. I would say that any time if you had a significant recession, you expect people to kind of shoot first ask questions later and that could lead to some delays. But, in general, we think the business case just gets stronger when people need to find those efficiencies.”

Lastly, the following are all yellow-to-red flags for me regarding DocuSign: (1) The company’s DBNRR comes in at less than 100% for an extended period of time; (2) it fails to increase its number of customers; and (3) it’s unable to convert revenue into free cash flow at a healthy clip in the future.

The Good Investors’ conclusion

Summing up DocuSign, it has:

  1. Valuable cloud-based software services in the agreements space that solves customers’ pain-points;
  2. high levels of recurring revenue;
  3. outstanding revenue growth rates;
  4. positive operating cash flow and free cash flow, with the potential for much higher free cash flow margins in the future;
  5. a large, growing, and mostly untapped addressable market;
  6. an impressive track record of winning customers and increasing their spending; and
  7. capable leaders who are in the same boat as the company’s other shareholders

The company does have a premium valuation, so I’m taking on valuation risk. There are also other risks to note, such as strong competition and a longer sales cycle that may not be conducive for a business environment that’s struggling with COVID-19. But after weighing the pros and cons, I have to agree with the idea of having DocuSign continue to stay in my family’s investment portfolio.

Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life.

“Why Are You Confident That Booking Holdings Will Survive The COVID-19 Crisis?”

Booking Holdings is suffering because of the coronavirus, COVID-19. Can the company survive the crisis? I think it can. Here’s why.

A few days ago, I received a text from a friend asking the question that is the title of this article. He knew that Booking Holdings (NASDAQ: BKNG), an online travel agent, is one of the 50-plus companies that’s in my family’s investment portfolio.

Stalled growth

On 18 February 2020, I published my investment thesis on Booking. In it, I wrote that “The world – particularly China – is currently battling COVID-19. If the situation worsens, Booking’s business could be hurt.” Little did I know how badly Booking would suffer. International travel activities have essentially grounded to a halt since the publication of my thesis for Booking, with many countries closing their borders to control the spread of COVID-19.

In particular, the businesses of hotels and airlines across the globe have been crushed. A few days ago, Arne Sorenson, CEO of hotel operator Marriott International, said that the company’s seeing revenue declines of more than 75% in the US. At home, Singapore Airlines cut 96% of its flight capacity last week. Booking, as an online travel agent focusing on accommodations, is also facing a brutal operating environment.

Confidence 

What gives me the confidence that Booking can survive? The company is the largest online travel agent in the world. The entire travel industry is awash in pain at the moment. But this also gives Booking the opportunity to win even more market share if some of its smaller/weaker competitors falter.

I believe that the COVID-19 crisis will blow over eventually (hopefully sooner rather than later, so that the incredible human suffering that’s currently happening can end as soon as possible). This will allow the travel industry to return to strength. When this happens, Booking will be in an even stronger position compared to before.

But Booking has to survive from now till then. I think the chances are very good that the company will. At the end of 2019, Booking held US$8.5 billion in cash, short-term investments, and long-term investments (this sum excludes US$3.3 billion in strategic investments) against total debt of US$8.6 billion.

I would prefer Booking to have significantly more cash than debt. But Booking’s debt is mostly long-term in nature (88.5% comes due on or after 31 December 2020). Moreover, the company’s debt has well-staggered maturities as shown in the table below. The earliest due-date for Booking’s long-term debt is September 2021 and it involves a manageable sum of US$1 billion. So there’s plenty of time for Booking to maneuver, and to wait for the travel industry’s health to improve.

Source: Booking 2019 annual report

No guarantee

But there’s no guarantee that Booking will survive. It could eventually crumble should the travel market undergo a long winter if COVID-19 proves to be a particularly tricky disease to combat. This is where diversification is important. 

I mentioned earlier that Booking is one of the 50-plus companies in my family’s investment portfolio. Even if Booking fails to survive, my family’s portfolio will. Diversification is how I guard the portfolio against specific-company risks. With diversification, my family and I are able to stay invested in Booking and participate in its potential recovery without having to worry about a significant hit to the portfolio. 

Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life.

3 Lessons From My Biggest Stock Market Losers

Here are 3 lessons I’ve picked up from my biggest investing mistakes, so that you can benefit from my experience without going through the same pain.

It’s great to learn from our own mistakes. But it’s even better to learn from those of others. COVID-19 has brought extreme market volatility and economic distress to the world. In a time like this, it’s easier for us to make investment mistakes.

I’m here to share the eggs I’ve had on my face in the stock market and what I’ve learnt from them, so that you can benefit from my errors. 

The backdrop

I started investing for my immediate family on 26 October 2010. The portfolio I help manage consists of stocks listed in the US market. There are currently over 50 stocks in it.

Some of the biggest losers in the portfolio include Atwood Oceanics, Ford (NYSE: F), Gilead Sciences (NASDAQ: GILD), GoPro (NASDAQ: GPRO), National Oilwell Varco (NYSE: NOV), Tapestry (NYSE: TPR), Under Armour (NYSE: UAA), and Zoe’s Kitchen.

Source: Yahoo Finance for current prices

Atwood Oceanics and Zoe’s Kitchen were privatised in October 2017 and November 2018, respectively, and I sold their shares on September 2016 and November 2018. I sold National Oilwell Varco in June 2017. I still own the other stocks mentioned.

Lesson 1: It’s okay to fail if you have the right investment framework 

My family’s investment portfolio has clearly had many epic losers. But from 26 October 2010 (the inception of the portfolio) to 29 March 2020, the portfolio has still grown in value by 16.0% annually, without including dividends. This is significantly higher than the S&P 500’s return of 10.7% per year over the same period, with dividends.

Source: S&P Global Market Intelligence; Google Finance; author’s calculations (from 26 October 2010 to 29 March 2020)

It’s okay to have multiple failures in your portfolio. There’s an investment framework that I’ve been using for my family’s portfolio for years. It has guided me towards massive winners, such as Netflix (NASDAQ: NFLX), Amazon (NASDAQ: AMZN), and MercadoLibre (NASDAQ: MELI). The winners in the portfolio have more than made up for the losers.

If you’re investing with a sound investment framework, then don’t beat yourself up too hard if some of your stocks are down big. Look at your performance from a portfolio-perspective, and not harp on how each position is doing.

Lesson 2: Diversify smartly, and stay away from commodity-related companies

Atwood Oceanics and National Oilwell Varco are companies in the oil & gas industry. When I invested in them, Atwood was an owner of oil rigs while National Oilwell Varco was supplying the parts and equipment that kept oil rigs running.

They were among my first-ever investments, back when I was a greenhorn in the stock market. I invested in them because I wanted to be diversified according to sectors. I also thought that oil & gas was a sector that is worth investing in since demand for the commodities would likely remain strong for a long time. My views were right, but only to a small extent. I was wrong on two important areas.

First, it is important to be diversified according to sectors (and geography too!). But there are some sectors that are just not worth investing in for the long run because their economic characteristics are poor. For instance, the energy, materials, and transport sectors have historically produced poor returns on invested capital. This is illustrated in the chart below from a 2006 McKinsey report which mapped out the average return on invested capital for various sectors from 1963 to 2004. Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett’s long-time lieutenant, once said:

“Over the long term, it’s hard for a stock to earn a much better return that the business which underlies it earns. If the business earns six percent on capital over forty years and you hold it for that forty years, you’re not going to make much different than a six percent return – even if you originally buy it at a huge discount.”

Source: McKinsey report

Second, demand for oil did indeed grow from 2010 to 2016. But oil prices fell significantly over the same period. The trends in oil consumption and oil prices for that period are depicted in the chart below.

The sharp fall in oil prices despite the rising demand illustrates the difficulty in predicting oil prices. In fact, it’s practically impossible. I recently learnt about a presentation that Peter Davies gave in 2007 titled What’s the Value of an Energy Economist? In it, he said that “we cannot forecast oil prices with any degree of accuracy over any period whether short or long.” Back then, Davies was the chief economist of British Petroleum, one of the largest oil & gas companies in the world.

With lower oil prices, the business results and share prices of Atwood Oceanics and National Oilwell Varco plummeted. The chart below shows National Oilwell Varco’s share price and earnings per share from 2010 to 2016 (data for Atwood Oceanics is not available since it’s now a private company). I think the predicament of Atwood Oceanics and National Oilwell Varco can be extrapolated to other commodity-related companies. It’s tough to predict the price movements of commodities; this in turn makes it difficult to have a good grasp on the business results of a commodity-related company over a multi-year period.

Lesson 3: Not selling the losers is as important as not selling the winners

You’ll notice that my family’s portfolio is still holding onto many of the big losers. The sales of Atwood Oceanics and National Oilwell Varco happened because of something that Motley Fool co-founder David Gardner shared a few years ago:

“Make your portfolio reflect your best vision for our future.”

Part of the vision I have for the world is that our energy-needs are entirely provided by renewable sources that do not harm the precious environment we live in. For this reason, I made the rare decision to voluntarily part ways with stocks in my family’s portfolio (referring to Atwood Oceanics and National Oilwell Varco).

I sell stocks very rarely and very slowly. This aversion to selling is by design – because it strengthens my discipline in holding onto the winners in my family’s portfolio. Many investors tend to cut their winners and hold onto their losers. Even in my earliest days as an investor, I recognised the importance of holding onto the winners in driving my family portfolio’s return. Being very slow to sell stocks – even the big losers – has helped me hone the discipline of holding onto the winners. And this discipline has been a very important contributor to the long run performance of my family’s portfolio.

Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life.

Making Financial Sense Of Singapore Airlines’s Massive Fundraising

Recently, Singapore Airlines announced a complex rights issue and mandatory convertible bonds offering. I’m breaking down the factual numbers.

Singapore Airlines (SGX: C6L) recently announced a massive round of fundraising. In all, Singapore’s national carrier is looking to raise S$15 billion. The first slice of the fundraising involves a S$5.3 billion rights shares issue, and a S$3.5 billion tranche of mandatory convertible bonds (MCBs).

Temasek Holdings is one of the Singapore government’s investment arms and the current major shareholder of Singapore Airlines (SIA) with a 55% stake. It has committed to mop up all the rights shares issue and MCBs that other SIA shareholders do not want.

My blogging partner Jeremy Chia published a wonderful article yesterday. He shared his thoughts on why he’s not interested in investing in SIA despite Temasek’s promise to provide up to S$15 billion in capital. I’m not here to share my thoughts on investing in SIA. Instead, I’m here to provide you with a factual breakdown of the numbers behind SIA’s rights shares issue and MCBs.

I recognise that SIA’s latest fundraising activity is complex, and there’s a lot of confusion about it. I want to help clear the air, to the best of my abilities. The Good Investors exists to demystify investing for you – so here I am!

Details of the rights shares issue of Singapore Airlines

Here are the important numbers concerning SIA’s rights shares issue:

  • Total sum: S$5.3 billion.
  • Number of rights shares to be issued: Up to 1.778 billion rights shares to be issued, on the basis of 3 rights shares for every 2 shares of SIA that currently exist. There are 1.185 billion SIA shares that exist right now.
  • Price per rights share: S$3.00.
  • Renounceable? Yes, this rights shares issue is renounceable, so you will get to trade the rights.
  • Changes in SIA’s book value per share (BVPS) and earnings per share (EPS) because of the rights issue: As of 31 December 2019, SIA’s BVPS and trailing-12-months EPS were S$10.25 and S$0.67, respectively. After the rights shares issue, the BVPS will fall to around S$5.89 while the EPS will decline to S$0.27, assuming everything else stays constant.
  • What you have to effectively pay for SIA’s shares: At the time of writing (11:20 am, 30 March 2020), SIA’s share price is S$5.82. If you subscribe for your full allotment of rights shares, you’re effectively paying a price of S$4.13 per share for SIA’s shares. The math works this way: Effective price per share = [S$5.82 + (S$3.00 x 1.5)] / 2.5.
  • The effective valuations you’re getting: At an effective share price of S$4.13, SIA will have a price-to-book ratio of 0.7 and a price-to-earnings ratio of 15.

Details of the MCBs of Singapore Airlines

For the MCBs, do note that the total sum SIA is looking for is S$9.7 billion. But the current tranche involves just S$3.5 billion. The key financial numbers for the current tranche of MCBs are as follows:

  • Total sum: S$3.5 billion.
  • Number of rights MCBs to be issued: Up to S$3.5 billion, in the denomination of S$1.00 per rights MCB, on the basis of 295 rights MCBs for every 100 shares of SIA that currently exist. As mentioned earlier, there are 1.185 billion SIA shares that exist right now.
  • Issue price per rights MCB: S$1.00, meaning you’ll pay S$1.00 to purchase each rights MCB.
  • Renounceable? Yes, this rights MCB issue is renounceable, so you will get to trade the rights.
  • Maturity date of MCB: 10 years from the date of issue of the rights MCBs.
  • Conversion terms of MCB: SIA is obliged to convert the rights MCBs into SIA shares when the MCBs mature. The conversion price is S$4.84 per SIA share. When the MCBs are converted at the maturity date (10 years from the date of issue), every S$1,000 worth of the MCBs will “grow” to S$1,806.11. This S$1,806.11 will then be converted into SIA shares at a price of S$4.84 each, giving us 373 SIA shares. The math works this way: Number of shares obtained upon conversion = S$1,806.11 / S$4.84
  • Redemption terms of the MCB: SIA has the right – but not the obligation – to redeem the MCBs every six months from the date of issue at a certain price, giving you a certain yield. If the MCBs have yet to be redeemed when we hit the 10-year mark from the date of issue, SIA is obliged to convert the MCBs into SIA shares, as mentioned earlier. The redemption prices and yields are given in the table below. Note that you cannot ask for the redemption – it is entirely up to SIA to decide.
Source: SIA regulatory announcement
  • What you’re effectively paying for SIA’s shares under the MCB, assuming it is converted: As mentioned earlier, if the MCBs are converted, every S$1,000 in MCBs will be converted into 373 shares. This gives rise to an effective price of S$2.68 per SIA share under the MCB. The math works this way: Effective price paid = S$1,000 / 373 shares. 
  • What you’re effectively paying for SIA’s shares, in all, under the MCB, assuming it is converted: But to get hold of the MCBs, you’ll have to own SIA shares. Every 100 shares has a full allotment of 295 rights MCBs. At the time of writing, SIA’s share price is S$5.82. This works out to an overall effective price of S$3.47 per share. Here’s the math: Overall effective price paid = ([100 x S$5.82) + (295 x S$2.68)] / (100 +295). 
  • Circumstances where you’ll make money on the MCBs alone (ignoring what happens to your SIA stake): There are a few scenarios where you’ll make a profit: (1) SIA redeems the MCBs before they are converted; (2) SIA allows the MCBs to convert into shares 10 years later and SIA’s share price is significantly higher than S$2.68 at that point in time. To be clear, the price of S$2.68 is the price you’re effectively paying for SIA’s shares in the event of the MCBs’ conversion. If SIA’s share price is around S$2.68 at the point of conversion, it’s very likely you’ll be losing money on the MCBs;  if SIA’s share price is lower than S$2.68 at the point of conversion, you’ll be losing money on the MCBs.
  • When is it beneficial for SIA to redeem the MCBs? Redemption of the MCBs will require SIA to fork out cash, which negatively impacts SIA’s financial health. On the other hand, the conversion of the MCBs does not require SIA to dole out any cash. So from this perspective, it’s beneficial for SIA to not redeem the MCBs at all. This is important to note for the MCB holders for cash-flow-planning purposes, since SIA could very well choose not to redeem the MCBs.

Other important points to note

Shareholders of Singapore Airlines can choose to participate in the company’s fundraising activity in one of the following ways:

  1. Subscribe for both the rights issue and rights MCBs
  2. Subscribe for just the rights issue but not the rights MCBs
  3. Subscribe for the rights MCBs but not the rights issue
  4. Do not subscribe for both the rights issue and rights MCBs

If you’re a Singapore Airlines shareholder and you choose the fourth option, you can still recover some capital by selling the rights issues and rights MCBs (both are renounceable, so the rights can be actively traded). But you will face massive dilution, since the airline’s share count will increase significantly.

Source: SIA regulatory announcement

I hope laying out all these numbers will help you – if you’re a Singapore Airlines shareholder or are interested in its shares and/or MCBs – to make a better-informed decision.

Disclaimer: The Good Investors is the personal investing blog of two simple guys who are passionate about educating Singaporeans about stock market investing. By using this Site, you specifically agree that none of the information provided constitutes financial, investment, or other professional advice. It is only intended to provide education. Speak with a professional before making important decisions about your money, your professional life, or even your personal life.

Endowus’s Fight To Give A Better Retirement For Singaporeans

We recently spoke to Singapore-based roboadvisor Endowus and learnt about its desire to solve Singapore’s retirement problem and so much more.

On 13 March 2020, Jeremy and I met Samuel Rhee and Chiam Sheng Shi from Endowus for a long, lovely chat. Sam is Endowus’s Chief Investment Officer, while Sheng Shi is the company’s Personal Finance Lead.

(From left to right in the photo above: Jeremy, myself, Sam, and Sheng Shi)

Endowus is one of the roboadvisors participating in Singapore’s burgeoning fintech landscape. I first came across Endowus about a year ago and was interested to learn more. That’s because the roboadvisor was (and still is) partnering Dimensional Fund Advisors, a fund management company I have long admired for its investing discipline and overall conduct.

Sheng Shi came across The Good Investors recently and reached out to Jeremy and I to find out more. This led to the in-person meeting on 13 March 2020.

Jeremy, Sam, Sheng Shi, and I covered a lot of ground during our conversation. We talked about Endowus’s founding, its investment philosophy, the company’s strong desire to solve the retirement problem for Singaporean investors, the obstacles it had to overcome to build low-cost investment solutions for investors, and more.

I came away from the meeting impressed by Endowus’s team as well as their passion and actions to help investors in Singapore. Jeremy did too. We are all fighting the same good fight. Below is a transcript of our conversation (edited for length and clarity). This is NOT a sponsored post by Endowus. Jeremy and I hope you will enjoy Sam and Sheng Shi’s wisdom and candid sharing as much as we did.


Introduction of Sam and Endowus

Ser Jing:
Could you please give an introduction about yourself?

Samuel:
Okay. I’m Sam. I’ve been working 25 years in the finance industry on the institutional side. I was at Morgan Stanley for 17 years. And the last job I had was at Morgan Stanley Investment Management Asia where I was CEO and CIO and I was there for 13 years. I worked in London and then Hong Kong for about seven years and I’ve now been in Singapore for 15+ years. When I was on the buyside, I did macro, asset allocation, portfolio construction in public equities and mostly Asia and emerging markets. I became the Chief Investment Officer and ran the money in Singapore. Singapore is the headquarters so we ran about 45 billion total. The portfolio that I personally managed was about US$10 billion to US$15 billion, depending on how markets were and I became the CEO for the last four years I was there.

I am the Chief Investment Officer in Endowus. We have this fancy title called Chairman that was bestowed upon me that I don’t really use but it’s there just because I’m the oldest by far.

Ser Jing:
You look really young actually.

Samuel:
Yeah, I’m turning 48. So the next youngest guy is 11 years younger than me in the office.

Ser Jing: You look 40, at most!

Samuel:
I have a babyface (laughs)! I call it the gift of immaturity. I started in ‘94. So I’ve seen many crises. ‘94 was a bad year. ‘97 was the Asian financial crisis. In ‘99 I saw the tech bubble bursting. 2008 was the financial crisis. Then the 2011 Euro crisis. Now we’ve come here and in the midst of another bear market, and we are experiencing 30% falls, which is unprecedented in nature.

Ser Jing:
In terms of the speed, right?

Samuel:
Yeah, we’re at the very early stages of the unfolding of this bear market but it’s unprecedented in speed and that’s because of the nature of the external shock we are facing. We don’t really know how this goes.

Anyway, back to the introduction! I am in charge of the investment office. I strategize the overall investment framework, the investment philosophy, how we execute on that through the best products. So we’re completely product agnostic – we use whatever product is most suitable and cost efficient for our clients, whether it’s unit trusts or ETFs. We are an independent fee-only financial advisor. That’s the constraint that we have put upon ourselves because we don’t want to be paid by anybody else other than the client.

When you define yourself as a fee-only independent financial advisor, the products that are available to you are tremendous. We went with the best passive or passive-plus product, which was Vanguard and Dimensional Fund Advisors. Vanguard was a strategic partner. We were supposed to do work together, but they pulled out of Singapore a few months before we launched. So that was the story. We were excited to launch with Dimensional as it can only be made available through the IFA (independent financial advisory) channel. On the fixed income side we did not like any existing solutions and there were no decent passive products because of the small SGD fixed income market here so we chose the best manager which was PIMCO, which is very well known by institutional clients but not readily available to retail investors. 

Ser Jing:
Not even Dimensional for the bonds portion? Because I think MoneyOwl uses them.

Samuel:
They have a short duration and short fixed income product, which is not globally diversified. We want a globally diversified core fixed income product. Dimensional products are suited for what they’re supposed to do, which is short term or short duration and they have other great products that we are trying to bring in.

Ser Jing:
Close to a money market fund?

Samuel:
I think it’s exactly what it is. Short duration and ultra high quality, you know, AA, AAA, treasuries, and sovereigns. And so I think there’s not much credit, not much high yield or emerging markets. I don’t think there’s any, and the term is just really short duration, so short fixed income products. Not global or through the duration spectrum.

We talked to Dimensional about requirements for a core fixed income product and they introduced a fund for us – a global quality bond fund. Unfortunately, their track record is really short. They just launched it last year with a Singapore dollar share class and we are looking to bring that into our portfolio so we are excited about that. 

To be honest, in fixed income, active management is not as sinful as equities. Even in equities, I’ve been an active manager so I know that if you do it well you can do well. It’s just that for the average Singaporean investor, can you do it well? If you are a really long term investor, especially with your CPF money, can you do it well and with the transaction costs and limitations involved?

That’s the elephant in the room: Are there enough guys that are delivering consistent returns over the long run net of fees, for CPF and SRS/cash investment? I have outperformed for eight consecutive years as an active manager. I know it can be done. I’ve seen many people around me do it.

We talk about Warren Buffett, Soros, Julian Robertson, and all these guys. They’ll say it’s possible but net of fees, it is difficult. And most retail investors don’t have access. Last year the top five hedge fund managers in the world got paid over a billion. Four of them underperformed the index I think. This doesn’t make sense, this kind of concept. Warren Buffett is actually supportive of the strategy of just buying an index fund. Passive low cost works over the long term. So why fix something that’s not broken?

Endowus’s investment philosophy and how Endowus is different from the rest

Ser Jing:
All good! So next question: What is your investment philosophy like and has it evolved across the years?

Samuel:
Let’s talk about the Endowus investment philosophy. We are trying to build an investment product that is suitable for 90%-plus of Singapore’s population and suitable for investors’ CPF money, long term, for their retirement goals. That’s the primary raison d’etre. The reason for our existence is to solve this generational problem, the retirement pension shortfall. And if you try to do that in Singapore, you can’t do that without CPF cause it’s such a big piece. It’s 37% of your gross monthly income. We can invest that better for Singaporeans. What we want to do is find and build an investment that is suitable for that particular problem.

We want to build a core investment product suitable to everyone, where they can invest 90-100% of their wealth conveniently, securely and in a low cost manner. When I say core, I mean the product that will build upon your long term sustainable returns based on equities and bonds, equities being the riskier growth asset class, which gives you the long term returns. And bonds being your diversifier and stable returns over time.

People compare us with other robo advisors/online platforms and they say we’re active managers and they criticize us for it. I would say that asset allocation (across different asset classes) take precedence over fund choices. The asset allocation has to be strategic and passive. That’s our philosophy. The problem with a lot of robo guys here is that they’re active asset allocators. As an institutional investor, I know that asset allocation represents 80% to 90% of your returns historically depending on the period. You need a strategic long term passive asset allocation and these guys are doing active management based on their whitepapers with backtested numbers which are not real track records. Fundamentally our asset allocation investment philosophy diverges.

The second thing is that we are really focused on the advice piece. We’re not building a product ourselves like the other Robos. We have lots of product guys (fund managers) like Dimensional or Vanguard and so many thousands of managers out there building great products and they have scale. They have expertise and they can build up much better than us.

So for us, we don’t want to focus on the product. We’re not building a product, we’re not competing with any fund managers. So later on, if those (active allocation) guys do fantastically well, they can be on the Endowus platform and they can build it into a portfolio or offer it as a DIY solution. 

It has to be strategic asset allocation. And in the execution of that asset allocation, we find the best product and we are agnostic to the structure. It can be an ETF or mutual fund. It doesn’t matter. It’s still the same funds that Vanguard has, say the S&P 500 fund, and Irish domiciled so it is tax efficient. It is the same product. The ETF and the fund are largely the same and we choose the more cost efficient and provide SGD funds as investors should match their assets and liabilities to SGD which is the home currency without taking unnecessary FX risk.

So basically ETFs are just listed and mutual funds are not but they have the same open-ended structure, same fund and cost structure. So this misunderstanding in the market that ETFs are the only way to be low cost, passive, and indexed is wrong. You can be none of those things for ETFs.

An ETF can be actively managed, high cost, and not indexed. So it doesn’t matter that it’s an ETF. You have to look at the underlying fund, what you’re investing in, right? Is it indexed? Is it passive, is it low cost? That’s what we apply. And sometimes ETFs are more expensive than accessing the mutual fund and mutual funds at institutional rates.

As an institutional investor, I know there’s access to funds at a lower cost. If you are an institution you don’t pay all the fees that people talk about. So what Endowus is doing is saying that as an institution we can group-buy for you.

How Endowus chooses the best investment products for investors

Ser Jing:
Why do you choose the funds that you do and not some of the ETFs in the US?

Samuel:
Now one of the problems with the US ETF fund is US dollars. That’s a problem for Singapore investors. Finance 101 is you need to match your assets with liabilities, including your FOREX liability. You should not be taking needless FX transactions when you invest, especially if the FX transaction cost is high like it is in Singapore for a retail investor.

When you convert SGD to USD, taking a hit there in terms of cost and then investing in USD, being exposed to that, and then later on having to bring it back at whatever exchange rate you don’t know. Then you go to the US and you have withholding tax and other things like inheritance tax issues. Bid-ask spreads on certain ETFs, you know, are another 5-10 basis points, which means you lose some when you hit the offer to buy and then again when you hit the bid to sell. This compares to mutual funds that will always be bought and sold on the same NAV [net asset value] and so no spread and no transaction cost, whereas ETFs have brokerage and transaction costs.

So we looked at all these things and concluded that US ETFs are really expensive and are not competitive for non-US investors. SGX-listed ones are in USD too and have huge bid-ask spreads. So for me after assessing the situation and products, we decided to go with Dimensional and PIMCO for our cash products. And for CPF products, we got the first passive Vanguard funds in there. Two of them exclusive to Endowus clients. Being agnostic to products is really important for us to change products if we find better, more efficient products.

We sourced for the best products most suitable for Singaporeans that are tax-efficient. It’s in SGD or in the case of fixed income, it is hedged to the SGD. For example, we are the ones that actually brought in the Dimensional World Equity product into Singapore. They didn’t have a World Equity Fund here, they didn’t have an SGD fund. We seeded and funded it. Before, it wasn’t available.

We also went to PIMCO and said, “Look, you have a global emerging market fund, but there’s no institutional share class and it is not SGD-hedged. Launch it for us and we’ll seed it and we’ll bring it our platform. We want to give it to Singaporean investors” They gave us some conditions and we know we want to do whatever it takes to bring the best product that we ourselves want to invest in. Within three, four weeks it was done. We seeded the SGD-hedged, institutional share class ourselves, and made it available to our clients on our advised portfolios.

So those are the kinds of solutions that we bring to the table, which is very different from everybody else. This is very different from trying to copy the US Robo model, which is to just buy US ETFs, pick off the list, try to get a tax refund later. In our view, this model is very, very fin-light. We pride ourselves in not only being Deep Tech, but also Deep Fin.

Endowus’s bootstrapping and employee-ownership mindset

Ser Jing:
How did Endowus gain the necessary initial capital to work with PIMCO and Dimensional Fund Advisors to seed the funds?

Samuel:
Okay. So the company is partner-funded and employee-owned. So everybody who’s an employee has the opportunity to invest in the company and they do. All of the employees are shareholders and we don’t have any external shareholders now. No VCs or PEs. The partners put up the money to begin the company. Employees put money in too. And the last round that we did, we didn’t even have room for all advisors who want to invest because employees take precedence. That’s how we structured the company. Its called bootstrapping and we’re bootstrapping not only in reality but in terms of our culture as well. That’s how we like it.

Endowus’s partnership with fund managers to bring the best products for investors to investors

Samuel:
And when we go to fund management companies, there is a language most people don’t know how to speak but I do. Fund managers actually are in a tough spot today because passive is taking over active. It’s a hugely competitive space as well. Think about the number of fund managers out there. They’re not future-proofed or prepared for the future. But if you go to them and make a proposition of what Endowus is about, why our values are aligned. We tell them that we’re going to gather assets and then we’re going to put it into the best products like theirs. Their response is immediately “Great. We’d love to work with you. What do you need?” Because for them, we are a digital asset gatherer and we’re free.

But we’re not a Fundsupermart. We’re not just going to put it on the platform. We’re actually gonna screen and go and get the best funds and provide the best-in-class funds at the lowest cost achievable by working with the fund managers directly.

Protecting investors’ interests, and Endowus’s unique cost-rebates to investors

Ser Jing:
You also direct the money into specific funds and don’t charge a trailer fee.

Samuel:
Yes. I mean the trailer fee, the fund manager doesn’t get, we don’t get it, so in our business model everyone’s interest is completely aligned. It’s the distribution guys like the traditional banks and brokers and platforms like iFast who take all of that. It should go to the client but these distribution and platform guys are taking it and lining their pocket. And the fund managers have to pitch and sell to the banks and platforms and brokers – the traditional distribution channels. It’s precisely why Vanguard gave up and left Singapore as they don’t pay trailer fees and it was impossible to get distributed.

The worst problem though is that it is in the end, the investors who get screwed because the best-in-class funds are often under the radar or not available. Vanguard’s best low cost passive funds are not available to retail investors! So the best funds are funds who are not willing to pay high or any trailer fees. Dimensional and Vanguard by philosophy would never pay trailer fees. And we as a philosophy would never take any. Unlike the iFast, Dollardex, DBSs of the world.

Ser Jing:
And I think Dimensional recently struck a deal with Finexis Advisory.

Samuel:
Actually they supply to a bunch of FAs [financial advisors] offline. They have no problem. They just distribute through financial advisors and not directly to retail or through traditional channels. So they have their own model, which is unique.

Vanguard doesn’t do the FA model. Dimensional started and really grew through FAs in the US. It works here as well although it’s not a huge pool but it’s still decent. So Dimensional is slightly different from Vanguard and that’s why they didn’t pull out.

But good fund managers, in general, are very happy to work with us. They don’t want to pay trailer fees anyway. Especially if you are the best quality or best performing. And so it’s perfectly aligned. So we go to them, we speak their language, we tell them why and we tell them there’s nothing in it for us and they just give us the best funds. We partner strategically with all the major fund managers. We have a great relationship with everybody.

We don’t carry everybody’s product. We don’t carry Aberdeen, Standard Life. You know, we don’t carry Wellington, GMO, Pinebridge. All these guys reach out to me and we keep a good relationship because we are always searching for best-in-class products, the most suitable product for Singapore. We will also provide more funds in the future through new services that we have in plan. It will really help investors with better choice, better advice and better price too! 

If someone can come up with a better product, we’ll work with them. Amundi for example. We’re doing some work, looking for products – even on the ETF side as they are a leader in ETF cost. That’s the Endowus investment philosophy. Fund due-diligence, fund manager due-diligence, that’s like a lot of the work. We have to screen for the best funds. We have to creatively think about what product is best suited to represent. So if you do an asset allocation and you allocate to a different market, geographically, Global, DM [developed markets], EM [emerging markets], then you try to find the best fit and we don’t want to do specific things like China and Malaysia funds, but more like big blocks that make sense. And you bring it up to an asset allocation that is passive and strategic.

Endowus’s efforts to lower costs for investors

Jeremy:
Is there a criteria that you use to select funds? For instance do the funds you select have a maximum management fee?

Samuel:
So we target all-in fees of 1% or less including our own advice access fee. Our fees are fixed. So for cash, it is 60 basis points [0.60%] going down to 0.25% depending on how much you invest with us. For the CPF and SRS it’s 0.4%. We said from the get-go, “Look, this is retirement, this is helping people’s future and therefore let’s try to start at the lowest possible.” And also it was influenced by the fact that CPF had already announced that their wrap fees are going to go down to 40 basis points by October 2020 and it was at 70 basis points at the moment and 1% before. So we moved way ahead of the curve last year. They delayed that announcement, but we still went with 0.4%. You don’t know if they’re going to execute, but hopefully, they will. But even if they don’t, that’s fine. Then everybody can invest through Endowus!

So 40 basis points. We started with a flat 40 basic fee and we target only an additional 60 basis points total expense ratio for the portfolio. But we couldn’t get them for CPF. There weren’t enough products because CPF has to include the funds and you have to go through a consultant, Mercer, in the process. It takes at least like six, nine months to go through that. And strict definitions of three-year track record, first quartile performance, et cetera, and bonds, even more onerous. And so there are only like 80 funds left on the CPF list and we couldn’t build a very high quality globally diversified low-cost portfolio. So we fixed the low-cost part by thinking creatively again.

Would you believe CPF doesn’t have a single passive fund or global ETF you can access?

Ser Jing:
I did not realise that.

Samuel:
You can only access the Singapore local ETF. And so it’s STI [Straits Times Index] and ABF Singapore Bond ETF and that’s it. So you can’t build a globally diverse portfolio. How do we fix this?

So we went to Vanguard and met with the CEO Charles Lin at the time, and Gerard Lee the CEO of Lion Global. I asked them to help solve the retirement problem here in Singapore together. We gotta fix the CPF issues of high cost, lack of passive product,  and we can do it together. So they already have a product. Vanguard supplies and manages the Infinity Series S&P500 and global equities and so we worked together to get it into the CPF-IS included fund list.

The problem though was that the cost of that fund was too high. The headline expense ratio was like 80 basis points and which included a trailer fee and the distribution was charging a sales charge on top of like 1% or more. We felt that that was ridiculous. We wanted to get it cheaper. They initially offered a standard rebate but we needed to get lower to achieve the lowest cost for CPF members and long term investors. So we pushed them until they agreed to get to a really low number. So in the end Vanguard gave us access at 10bps [basis points] and Lion Global’s wrap went down to just 20bps. We are so grateful for their support. They’ve been very value-aligned and tried really hard to get there with us. So total all-in management and wrap were 30 basis points and including expense ratio, gets to closer to 40bps. Compared to the 80bps and 1% sales charge, it’s a meaningful difference to give people a better chance of succeeding in investing. They denominated it in SGD, locally registered, and also put into CPF-IS. And you can’t get that with even cash ETF access, you know? If you look at it from a total all-in cost angle, it’s certainly so much cheaper than US ETFs.

Ser Jing:
This is off the track but I am actually a little bit confused. Why would Lion Global’s wrap services be needed? There seems to be a more elegant solution where Vanguard could just supply it directly?

Samuel:
Well, first of all they pulled out of Singapore. So the plan was for them to do that. In order to do that they have to be qualified for two things. One is they have to be a locally registered licensed retail fund manager, RLFMC, right? So they have to be a registered licensed fund manager. Secondly, they have to be an approved fund manager on the CPF Investment Scheme. So that’s the second step and the third step is you have to get your fund onto the CPF approved list. So there’s three steps and the moment Vanguard pulls out, they can’t do that.

So Lion Global is locally registered as a retail licensed fund manager. They’re approved by CPF as a CPF Investment Scheme fund manager. And the only thing that was left was for them to put it (the Vanguard S&P 500 fund) onto the CPF system. Because they were no longer there, so we needed to put it back and then fix the cost issue. Also, the underlying Vanguard funds do not have an SGD fund. This is the only SGD fund available.

So there was a new guideline that was introduced by CPF Board just as the first passive fund went in that there will be a cap of 50 basis points. That’s the total expense ratio. We are hoping that the total expense ratio will be a single digit fee expense ratio, so our total expense ratio (including the fund management fee) will be 40 or below 50, all in.

So now it’s in, but it’s only allowed and falls below the 50bps guideline because Endowus introduced the industry-first of giving back 100% rebate of trailer fees. So technically the product is still 57.5, but we give 27.5 rebate to get to that 30 basis point management and 40 TER. So it’s well below 50 and a second passive fund that we just put in is the Global Equities fund. So the Vanguard Global Equities. Similarly 18 basis points that Vanguard takes, 20 for Lion Global, and expense ratio of single digit, so all in its less than 48bps TER. So again below 50. So we’re the only ones who can distribute these as the official TER is higher and no one else rebates 100% of the trailer. So that’s the elegant solution. We looked into getting the institutional ones in but we couldn’t. So we tried to still solve it intelligently by putting another product in at low cost.

So those are the things that we could do to improve the product. So those two funds are passive. They are the first two passive funds in CPF and it is part of our portfolio. The only way to access it (for your CPF) is through Endowus. It (the two index funds) makes up the bulk of the equities allocation, which brings down cost dramatically from what we had before and it’s also available for Cash and SRS if you want to at that lower cost too.

Jeremy:
So for the two indexed funds, your clients are paying a 0.9% total expense ratio?

Samuel:
No, the total expense ratio is a concept that exists at the fund level. So that TER is 0.4% and 0.48% for the two funds – below 0.5%. So we’ve included both funds into our globally diversified portfolio. The whole list of funds will be allocated based on your risk appetite. Whether its 100% equity or 60% equity and 40% bonds, or whatever, we will build our globally diversified portfolio. The portfolio fund level fees (the TERs I mention above) vary depending on the risk level you choose, but effectively your all in total cost of investing in Endowus is less than 1%. For CPF and SRS it’s 0.4% to Endowus for all of our advice and access. Then the fund level underlying fee is 50~60bps. Yeah. So especially if you consider the fact that if you try to build that yourself, like right now through iFAST, everything, it’s probably closer to 2%-3% because you have the platform fee and the trailer fee that they take.

Sheng Shi:
We are definitely the lowest cost platform. Even if you get through Fund Supermart, they charge a platform fee. I looked up the cost of buying the same Infinity fund on iFast and they charge 35bps of platform fees on top of the trailer fees they receive which should be at least 27.5bps. So they are getting 62.5bps of fees for just selling a Vanguard passive fund.

Endowus’s founding and how the founders built the team

Ser Jing:
So the next question is how did you and the rest of Endowus’s founding team meet? Tell us more about the conversations that led to Endowus.

Samuel:
It was a pretty simple story. Basically I left Morgan Stanley. I retired from the firm on the condition that I don’t join a competitor, completely retired. And then I took a year out. So it was a sabbatical for me and I worked 23 years straight without a break and Morgan Stanley was 17 years of that. Within Morgan Stanley, I moved a couple of times.

So I’m very unique in the sense that I moved within the same company and any large financial institution is about joining the same department and doing it for the rest of your life. Like investment banking, research, or whatever. I was lucky that Morgan Stanley gave me the opportunity to move around. Anyway after 17 years I left and took the sabbatical. I needed to restore relationships with my wife, my kids, friends, cause I was so busy doing CEO and CIO.

It’s a role that in asset management very rarely is taken together. And it was forced upon me because of circumstances. It was supposed to be a temporary gig, but in reality it ended up being four years. I enjoyed it as it was a new challenge and made me learn a lot more about being a CEO and running a business more holistically. I think it was fun at times but very challenging at the same time as there were a lot of changes from a regulatory perspective, and we had to beef up governance and oversight and risk management. We had to revamp the whole trading team and other changes that were needed. But it was too much and I finally was able to negotiate a very amicable exit.

During my sabbatical, I went to a theological seminary to study theology, especially workplace ministry and things like the biblical interpretation of money. I find these things fascinating and that was really, really fun. And then I took a Stanford NUS International Management course to learn cutting edge management and other skills and during this time I had set up a vehicle to invest in fintech companies, so I had multiple fintech investments across the region. I stopped doing that once I joined Endowus full-time. But my idea was that I wanted to disrupt the pieces of the financial services landscape through the application of technology and innovative new services. The focus was on the biggest pools of financial assets and potential business opportunities that were not being disrupted.

One was, well it was Wealth Tech. The other one is pieces of the investment banking business. So those two verticals are by definition very relationship driven and very old school. There’s not much innovation, there’s nothing new really happening. There’s no technology being applied. And so those two were the space. I thought wealth was like true to my heart. I have a passion for solving retirement issues. The pension problem is the single biggest generational challenge. It’s like a major problem, not only in Singapore but Korea and other major aging countries.

So I was driven by this mission and I looked at all the robo guys, including the ones in Singapore at the time. There were also four guys in Korea. Hong Kong, Taiwanese, Australia, etc. I actually didn’t want to invest in any of them. And the reason is simple: They’re all product guys. They all have fund management licenses and were building product but just using ETFs instead of underlying securities so you have double layer of fees and inefficient structures. And I wanted to focus more on the value added piece, which I felt was going to be the advice piece and especially retirement related.

That is the more value-added piece and I believe long-term, advice wins. So we need to build an advice company and there are a few guys in the US that were doing robo retirement – like Bloom and some of these guys. So I wanted to do something in that space, retirement and advice. And I was thinking about starting my own company. The biggest one in Korea actually offered me to build that in Asia Pacific. They wanted to back me and give me the freedom to own it and build it. But the values and the ways you were looking at their investments just were not aligned. They will try to build algorithms to outperform. Right? So it’s product again. That was when a friend who runs a VC fund introduced me to You Ning and he said, “Oh Sam, you’re doing fintech. I have a guy who is doing fintech, you guys should meet.” That was it.

So I met You Ning first and we have common connections. So we hit it off from the get go. We were excited that we were so similar in the way we were thinking about things and how it should be different from the simple roboadvisors out there. He had incorporated the company with Greg and started Endowus and had focused on the CPF piece which was the catch for me as CPF is about retirement – or should be.

You Ning’s background was at Goldman Sachs investment banking. He did private equity, was at a hedge fund for a little bit, and then he ran the family office of Mr. Kuok, the founder of Wilmar. But a lot of it was private investments, so he thought my public market background would be a great fit. And then Greg did fund structuring and distribution at UBS, for private equity and venture cap. He also began the payment service at Grab when it was Grabtaxi and only cash!

So they didn’t have that public market expertise, which was what they needed. They wanted to get a CIO, they wanted to get my advice or mentorship kind of thing. And it kind of all came together. So my thing was, “Do I just become an investor or become an entrepreneur and join full time?” And that’s when I thought this group makes a good fit for me to be the older balance and the investment person for the team. Greg, who’s done Grab and payments and who’s actually built product was focused on the COO role. So he’s the product guy. And then You Ning brings the type of market expertise and private markets knowledge but is also meticulous, so You Ning has the CFO role. And then I was a CIO. So functionally those were the three divisions and it was a great fit to build out the company in a robust way. And I really build the investment side of the business. Whether it’s partnerships with FMCs [fund management companies], due diligence on the funds themselves, and building out portfolios to express the strategic asset allocation. So we all had like very defined contributions, very defined roles. And it was a perfect fit and personality wise and we work really well together. So that’s how we came together.

Ser Jing:
Thanks for sharing that. Because when I was looking through the founding team, I was just thinking you have these two seemingly very experienced investors, so how do you decide who gets to do what?

Samuel:
The fourth important piece of the founding team was Sin Ting. So I met them at the end of ‘17 beginning of ‘18. And I officially joined in February of ‘18. Sin Ting joined just before me in November of ‘17. Sin Ting is the other partner – I guess, cofounder as well. We came together as a team and we were licensed in January of 2018 and we started managing money from April and launched our platform in August of 2018 and our retail launch was April 2019.

She has a private banking background. So she was at Morgan Stanley in private banking and then she worked in Nomura private banking. So the other piece is the wealth piece, right? So I’m institutional, we’re all institutional. COO, CIO, so Sin Ting is the Chief Client Officer with private banking experience. Sin Ting fits that bill. Client Facing, client interaction, what clients want, how they should be served. The client experience is very important.

Ser Jing:
So she has a lot of input on how the product should be for the client.

Samuel:
Yeah, she’s the client advocate. So she faces the client and runs the client team where we have 6 registered reps and then she gives feedback to the investment product and tech product and feeds into how the product should be structured.

Obviously, it’s a group thing. You get everybody’s contributions and now Sheng Shi is also on board. He is a rep and he is client-facing, but he also reaches out to the community and videos and blogs and he’s our personal finance lead. He does a lot of wonderful grassroots work in the community and interfaces and partners with CPF Board for example. 

Sin Ting leads the more high net worth kind of private banking. We have another person, Lean Sing who was from Citi Gold, so more mass-wealth kind of expertise. And he is great with our clients at the mass wealth all the way up to high net worth clients and really provides value-added advice to clients. He worked in finance and also went for a few years to study Theology and served at a church and came back to finance with us at Endowus as he believed in our values and vision. So we have really been very purposeful in building out the team and filling the gaps.

When you’re building a tech product, you can’t just build a financial services tech product. You’ve got to have deep financial services expertise. So the domain knowledge is very deep. You have to know the trade flows, you know exactly how things are executed, what investment products actually do, how they should be. How to find the best products. Think about tax, FX, and costs and things that others don’t know or don’t think about. So you need to rely on people who’ve had experience and are capable of doing that.We all have a wealth of knowledge and experience in the field that we are in and the clients that we are serving.

So our tech team is actually, it’s like the Avengers, it’s like guys who know finance, guys who know tech, and can build products. We don’t need superfluous stuff or a humongous team. We just need a dedicated team that has the expertise, like 10 people that can do it. Execute. That’s it. We built all the technology in-house and our team has really deep expertise and experience in building out our tech team. Our CTO Joo was at Goldman Sachs Asset Management and UBS and a few other financial firms building trading systems and complex tech platforms. He also built the backend of Stashaway. He has grown into an amazing CTO now leading the team for us. John and Jay, the front and back end leads, are amazing as is our Dev Ops CY. We brought in our Chief Product Officer from Silicon Valley – Jx Lye – amazing guy with great experience and will help take our product to the next level. So we are excited about our tech and product too.

Ser Jing:
So you have your own in-house software development.

Samuel:
Completely. Yeah. That’s why they are called the A team, the Avengers team and we are the B team, the business team. We are confident we have built the most cutting edge and flexible WealthTech platform in not just Singapore but all of Asia. It’s an amazing product.

Endowus’s greatest challenge

Ser Jing:
I’m mindful of time, I’m sorry. So maybe I’ll just ask two or three more questions. I think this one can be very important for individual investors in Singapore. What do you think is Endowus’s greatest challenge in trying to become a lasting investing institute for investors?

Samuel:
There’s a purpose for why we wanted to go in specifically with the goal of trying to to help solve retirement. Helping people secure their financial future, helping people to save and invest, to prepare for their life better. All those things, right? Grand phrases and captions but hollow words unless we can really help people’s lives in a meaningful way.

The most important thing is that I think clients need to buy into the idea of investing their CPF. And that’s a tough challenge. And the reason is that historically people have been told, your CPF is for this and this and it’s not just a retirement solution. It’s really a total social security system. And OA is always for housing, right? That’s what people instinctively think. OA is for housing. You have a retirement piece (retirement account). You have SA [Special Account], MediSave (medical cover) so it solves everything.

But the problem is that housing, I mean really as an investor, and I don’t know if you agree, but housing is probably a poor asset allocation to me at this point in time in this cycle. And equities have corrected 30% but housing has not even begun. So if you look at the opportunity for capital gains, if you look at the fact that it’s a low yielding asset class, and if you look at the fact that if you use your OA, especially for an HDB 99-year lease, it is not an efficient investment.

What you should do with your OA, because your SA is giving 4% to 5%, you should think of this piece as your bond allocation. And use your OA which is giving you just 2.5% (which by the way is not really guaranteed long term) and barely above inflation. Rather than using that for a house, you should really try to invest as much of it as your long term equities allocation. Build returns over the long run and build that for retirement. And it’s perfect for that purpose as it’s locked away and you cannot touch it for 20, 30, 40 years and you save regularly into it as a regular savings plan and it’s a meaningful enough chunk of it. The recent market correction is the right time to start thinking and using this. The problem has been that the costs have been too high and so outcomes have been poor or you get suckered into terrible ILP products. But now with Endowus you can get a globally diversified portfolio for the long term at really low cost which raises your chances of success.

The other reason is that your retirement adequacy is not enough. Even the enhanced retirement sum under CPF is not enough. It’s probably gonna be around $1,500 to $2,000 a month. So it’s just basically not enough to live in Singapore with the inflation rate that exists. So you need to do more and if your retirement account is not enough, your OA (ordinary account) is basically your backup plan, right? And so you need to build it up in a meaningful way. My friend Loo Cheng Chuan talks about 1M65 alot but together with his wife, he thinks if he uses Endowus and invests his OA then he can get to 4M65, that’s 4 million by the time he is 65, which is amazing. That’s the power of investing your CPF.

But the problem is no one knows of this fact and it takes time to change long-held beliefs. That’s the education piece and that’s the biggest challenge that we face. We do a lot of financial literacy and education, and hold events and webinars, but it takes time. And the incumbent banks and platforms are not helping much. Even if we fail, if we can change the way these guys run their business so they lower fees and improve access to individual investors and provide better advice because of the competition we bring then we would have done our job. We are David and they are Goliath in this fight.

But we know it is the right thing. We’re up for the challenge and we’ll do it, but it’s a long haul and it’s going to be a tough ask and it’s going to take a long time. But we’re fine. Time is on our side and we’re patient entrepreneurs, so we’ll keep at it because we know we’re doing the right thing. 

Ser Jing:
Fantastic! I guess this is a really good point to end the conversation. Thank you for your time.


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Why I Own Alteryx Shares

Alteryx has only been in my family’s portfolio for a short time, but it has not done well for us. Here’s why we continue to own Alteryx.

Alteryx (NYSE: AYX) is one of the 50-plus companies that’s in my family’s portfolio. I first bought Alteryx shares for the portfolio in September 2019 at a price of US$118 and I’ve not sold any of the shares I’ve bought.

The purchase has not worked out well for my family’s portfolio thus far, with Alteryx’s share price being around US$98 now. But we’ve not even owned the company’s shares for a year, and it is always important to think about how the company’s business will evolve going forward. What follows is my thesis for why I still continue to hold Alteryx shares.

Company description

Alteryx provides a self-service subscription-based software platform that allows organisations to easily scrub and blend data from multiple sources and perform sophisticated analysis to obtain actionable insights.

The company’s platform can interact with nearly all data sources. These include traditional databases offered by the likes of IBM, Oracle, and SAP, as well as newer offerings such as those from MongoDB, Amazon Web Services, Google Analytics, and even social media.

Once data from different sources are fed into Alteryx’s platform, it cleans and blends the data. Users can easily build configurable and sophisticated analytical workflows on the platform through drag-and-drop tools. The workflows can be easily automated and shared within the users’ organisation, and the results can be displayed through Alteryx’s integrations with data-visualisation software from companies such as Tableau Software and Qlik. Here’s a chart showing the various use cases for Alteryx’s data analytics platform:

Source: Alteryx June 2019 investor presentation

At the end of 2019, Alteryx had around 6,100 customers, of all sizes, in more than 90 countries. These customers come from a wide variety of industries and include more than 700 of the Global 2000 companies. The Global 2000 is compiled by Forbes and it’s a list of the top 2,000 public-listed companies in the world ranked according to a combination of their revenue, profits, assets, and market value. With thousands of customers, it’s no surprise that Alteryx does not have any customer concentration – no single customer accounted for more than 10% of the company’s revenue in the three years through 2019. The graphic below illustrates the diversity of Alteryx’s customer base:

Source: Alteryx 2019 fourth-quarter earnings presentation

Despite having customers in over 90 countries, Alteryx is currently still a US-centric company. In 2019, 71% of its revenue came from the US. The UK is the only other country that accounted for more than 10% of Alteryx’s revenue in 2019 (10.7%).

Investment thesis

I had previously laid out my six-criteria investment framework in The Good Investors. I will use the same framework to describe my investment thesis for Alteryx.

1. Revenues that are small in relation to a large and/or growing market, or revenues that are large in a fast-growing market

Alteryx earned US$417.9 million in revenue in 2019. This is significantly lower than the US$73 billion addressable market that the company is currently seeing. It comprises two parts:

  1. US$49 billion in the global big data and analytics software market (according to a July 2017 IDC report) which includes the US$28 billion global analytics and business intelligence market (according to a January 2019 Gartner report) 
  2. A US$24 billion slice, based on Alteryx’s estimate of the spend associated with 47 million spreadsheet users worldwide who worked on advanced data preparation and analytics in 2018 (according to an April 2019 IDC report)
Source: Alteryx 2019 fourth-quarter earnings presentation

I believe that better days are ahead for Alteryx for a few reasons:

  • I mentioned earlier that the company’s data analytics platform can interact with nearly all data sources. This interactivity is important. A 2015 Harvard Business Review study sponsored by Alteryx found that 64% of organizations use five or more sources of data for analytics.
  • Market researcher IDC predicted in late 2018 that the quantity of data in the world (generated, captured, and replicated) would compound at an astounding rate of 61% per year, from 33 zettabytes then to 175 zettabytes in 2025. That’s staggering. 1 zettabyte equals to 1012 gigabytes.
  • A 2013 survey on more than 400 companies by business consultancy group Bain found that only 4% of them had the appropriate human and technological assets to derive meaningful insights from their data. In fact, Alteryx’s primary competitors are manual processes performed on spreadsheets, or custom-built approaches. These traditional methods for data analysis involve multiple steps, require the support of technical teams, and are slow (see chart below).
  • Crucially, Alteryx’s self-service data analytics platform is scalable, efficient, and can be mastered and used by analysts with no coding skill or experience. I think this leads to a few good things for Alteryx. First, it democratises access to sophisticated data analytics for companies, and hence opens up Alteryx’s market opportunity. Second, it places Alteryx’s platform in a sweet spot of riding on a growing trend (the explosion in data generated) as well as addressing a pain-point for many organisations (the lack of resources to analyse data, and the laborious way that data analysis is traditionally done).

(Traditional way to perform data analysis)

Source: Alteryx IPO prospectus

2. A strong balance sheet with minimal or a reasonable amount of debt

As of 31 December 2019, Alteryx held US$974.9 million in cash, short-term investments, and long-term investments. This is comfortably higher than the company’s total debt of US$698.5 million (all of which are convertible notes).

3. A management team with integrity, capability, and an innovative mindset

On integrity

Alteryx was listed in March 2017, so there’s only a short history to study when it comes to management. But I do like what I see.

The company was founded in 1997. One of its co-founders, Dean Stoecker, 63, has held the roles of CEO and chairman since its establishment. Another of Alteryx’s co-founders is 57-year-old Olivia Duane Adams, the company’s current chief customer officer. The third co-founder, Ned Harding, 52, was a key technology leader in the company and left in July 2018; he remains an advisor to Alteryx’s software engineering teams. The company’s chief technology officer role is currently filled by Derek Knudsen, 46. He stepped into the position in August 2018  after Harding’s departure. Knudsen had accumulated over 20 years of experience working with technology in companies in senior leadership positions before joining Alteryx.

Stoecker and Duane Adams collectively controlled nearly 10 million Alteryx shares as of 31 March 2019. These shares are worth around US$980 million at the company’s current share price of US$98. That’s a large stake and it likely aligns the interests of Stoecker and Duane Adams’ with Alteryx’s other shareholders.

Alteryx has two share classes: (1) The publicly-traded Class A shares with 1 voting right per share; and (2) the non-traded Class B shares with 10 voting rights each. Stoecker and Duane Adams’ Alteryx shares were mostly of the Class B variety. So, they controlled 47.9% of the voting power in the company despite holding only 16% of the total shares. Collectively, Alteryx’s key leaders controlled 54.1% of the company’s voting rights as of 31 March 2019.

Source: Alteryx proxy statement

Having clear control over Alteryx means that management can easily implement compensation plans that fatten themselves at the expense of shareholders. The good thing is that the compensation structure for Alteryx’s management looks sensible to me.

In 2018, 70% to 79.7% of the compensation of Alteryx’s management team came from long-term incentives. These incentives include restricted stock units (RSUs) and stock options that vest over multi-year periods. There is room for some misalignment to creep in though – as far as I can tell, there is no clear description given by Alteryx on the performance metrics that management must meet in order to earn their compensation. But I don’t see this as a dealbreaker. Because of the multi-year vesting period for the RSUs and stock options, Alteryx’s management will do well over time only if the share price does well – and the share price will do well only if the business does well. From this perspective, the interests of management and shareholders are still well-aligned.

On capability and innovation

Alteryx’s business has changed dramatically over time since its founding. In its early days, the company was selling software for analysing demographics. Alteryx’s current core data analytics software platform was launched only in 2010, and a subscription model was introduced relatively recently in 2013. I see Alteryx’s long and winding journey to success as a sign of the founders’ ability to adapt and innovate.

I also credit Alteryx’s management with the success that the company has found in the land-and-expand strategy. The strategy starts with the company landing a customer with an initial use case, and then expanding its relationship with the customer through other use cases. The success can be illustrated through Alteryx’s impressive dollar-based net expansion rates (DBNERs). The metric is a very important gauge for the health of a SaaS (software-as-a-service) company’s business. It measures the change in revenue from all the company’s customers a year ago compared to today; it includes positive effects from upsells as well as negative effects from customers who leave or downgrade. Anything more than 100% indicates that the company’s customers, as a group, are spending more.

Alteryx’s DBNER has been more than 120% in each of the last 20 quarters – that’s five years! The chart below illustrates Alteryx’s DBNER going back to 2017’s first quarter.

Source: Alteryx 2019 fourth-quarter earnings presentation

Alteryx’s management has also led impressive customer-growth at the company. The company’s customer count has more than quadrupled from 1,398 at the end of 2015 to 6,087 at the end of 2019.

But there is a key area where Alteryx’s management falls short: The company’s culture. Alteryx has a 3.5-star rating on Glassdoor, and only 65% of reviewers will recommend Alteryx to friends. Stoecker only has an 85% approval rating as CEO. SAP, a competitor of Alteryx, has 4.5 stars on Glassdoor, and recommendation and CEO-approval ratings of 93% and 97%, respectively. Alteryx has managed to post impressive business-results despite its relatively poor culture, but I’m keeping an eye on things here.

4. Revenue streams that are recurring in nature, either through contracts or customer-behaviour

Alteryx’s business is built nearly entirely on subscriptions, which generate recurring revenue for the company. The company sells access to its data analytics platform through subscriptions, which typically range from one to three years. In 2019, 2018, 2017, and 2016, more than 95% of Alteryx’s revenue in each year came from subscriptions to its platform; the rest of the revenue came from training and consulting services, among others. 

5. A proven ability to grow

There isn’t much historical financial data to study for Alteryx, since the company was listed only in March 2017. But I do like what I see.

Source: Alteryx IPO prospectus and annual reports 

A few key points to note:

  • Alteryx has compounded its revenue at an impressive annual rate of 61.6% from 2014 to 2019. The astounding revenue growth of 92.7% in 2018 was partly the result of Alteryx adopting new accounting rules in the year. Alteryx’s revenue for 2018 would have been US$204.3 million after adjusting for the impact of the accounting rule, representing slower-but-still-impressive top-line growth of 55.2% for the year. 2019 saw the company maintain breakneck growth, with its revenue up by 64.8%.
  • Alteryx started making a profit in 2018, and also generated positive operating cash flow and free cash flow in 2017, 2018, and 2019.
  • Annual growth in operating cash flow and free cash flow from 2017 to 2019 was strong at 33.8% and 21.4%, respectively.
  • The company’s balance sheet remained robust throughout the timeframe under study, with significantly more cash and investments than debt.
  • At first glance, Alteryx’s diluted share count appeared to increase sharply by 22.1% from 2017 to 2018. But the number I’m using is the weighted average diluted share count. Right after Alteryx got listed in March 2017, it had a share count of around 57 million. This means that the increase in 2018 was milder (in the mid-teens range) though still higher than I would like it to be. The good news is that the diluted share count inched up by only 6% in 2019, which is acceptable, given the company’s rapid growth. I will be keeping an eye on Alteryx’s dilution.

6. A high likelihood of generating a strong and growing stream of free cash flow in the future

Alteryx has already started to generate free cash flow. Right now, the company has a poor trailing free cash flow margin (free cash flow as a percentage of revenue) of just 5.4%.

But over the long run, Alteryx expects to generate a strong free cash flow margin of 30% to 35%. I think this is a realistic and achievable target. There are other larger SaaS companies such as Adobe, salesforce.com, and Veeva Systems (my family’s portfolio owns shares in all three companies too) with a free cash flow margin around that range or higher.

Source: Companies’ annual reports and earnings updates

Valuation

You should get some tissue ready… because Alteryx’s shares have a nosebleed valuation. At a share price of US$98, Alteryx carries a trailing price-to-sales (P/S) ratio of 16.1. This P/S ratio is in the middle-range of where it has been since Alteryx’s IPO in March 2017 (see chart below). But the P/S ratio of 16.1 is still considered high. For perspective, if I assume that Alteryx has a 30% free cash flow margin today, then the company would have a price-to-free cash flow ratio of 54 based on the current P/S ratio (16.1 divided by 30%). 

But Alteryx also has a few strong positives going for it. The company has: (1) a huge addressable market in relation to its revenue; (2) a large and rapidly expanding customer base; and (3) very sticky customers who have been willing to significantly increase their spending with the company over time. I believe that with these traits, there’s a high chance that Alteryx will continue posting excellent revenue growth – and in turn, excellent free cash flow growth – in the years ahead.

The current high valuation for Alteryx does mean that its share price is likely going to be more volatile than the stock market as a whole (I’m also keeping in mind that stocks have been very volatile of late because of COVID-19 fears). But the potential volatility is something I’m very comfortable with.

The risks involved

I see a few key risks in Alteryx, with the high valuation being one. Besides introducing volatility (which I don’t see as a risk), Alteryx’s high valuation means that the market has high expectations for the company’s future growth. If Alteryx stumbles along the way, its share price will be punished. With COVID-19 causing widespread slowdowns in business activity across the world, there may be a global recession in the works. Should it happen, Alteryx may find it tough to grow its business.

Competition is another important risk. I mentioned earlier that Alteryx’s primary competitors are spreadsheets, or custom-built approaches. But the company’s data analytics platform is also competing against services from other technology heavyweights with much stronger financial resources, such as International Business Machines, Microsoft, Oracle, and SAP. Providers of data visualisation software, such as Tableau, could also decide to move upstream and budge into Alteryx’s space. To date, Alteryx has dealt with competition admirably – its quarterly DBNERs and growth in customer numbers are impressive. I’m watching these two metrics to observe how the company is faring against competitors.

Two other key risks deal with hacking and downtime in Alteryx’s services. The company’s platform is important for users, since it is used to crunch data to derive actionable insights; it is also likely that Alteryx’s platform is constantly fed with sensitive information of its users. Should there be a data breach on the platform, and/or if the platform stops working for extended periods of time, Alteryx could lose the confidence of its customers.

Then there’s also succession risk with Alteryx. Dean Stoecker, the company’s co-founder and CEO, is already 63. Should he step down in the future, I will keep an eye on the leadership transition.

Lastly, the following are all yellow-to-red flags for me regarding Alteryx: (1) The company’s DBNER comes in at less than 100% for an extended period of time; (2) it fails to increase its number of customers; and (3) it’s unable to convert revenue into free cash flow at a healthy clip in the future.

The Good Investors’ conclusion

Summing up Alteryx, it has:

  1. A valuable self-service data analytics platform that addresses customers’ pain-points and is superior to legacy methods for data analysis;
  2. high levels of recurring revenue;
  3. outstanding revenue growth rates;
  4. positive profit and free cash flow, with the potential for much higher free cash flow margins in the future;
  5. a large and mostly untapped addressable market;
  6. an impressive track record of winning customers and increasing their spending; and
  7. capable leaders who are in the same boat as the company’s other shareholders

The company does have a premium valuation, so I’m taking on valuation risk. There are also other risks to note, such as tough competition and succession. But after analysing all the data on Alteryx’s pros and cons, I’m happy for my family’s portfolio to continue owning the company’s shares.

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